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01-25-2016, 09:41 AM
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Originally Posted by VTSmitty
The work was done by Colin Hyde Trailer Restorations, Plattsburgh NY. All told, with axles, wheels, caps, tires, shipping, and installation it was about $3K. One other nice thing about the new axles is that we can now lube through the caps (assuming you buy ones with the removable plug), instead of having to take the wheel off.
Dan
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That's much lower than I was expecting. This is going on the wish list to do more research.
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01-25-2016, 09:18 PM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
, California
Join Date: May 2015
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The black and grey water valves and discharge port are a bit low on the 23. You might look into a skid plate to protect them and review the need to protect the tanks as well. Good luck with your camping. Stay safe. Pat
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01-26-2016, 04:25 AM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,097
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When we put the 15" Michel;in tires on the 23D, the trailer was raised 1.1" which helps the ground clearance on the rear plumbing fittings. A skid plate might be a good idea along with a heat tape for freezing weather wrapped round the fittings along with insulation since it just "all hangs out" back there.
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2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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01-26-2016, 06:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2013 23' FB Flying Cloud
Jericho
, Vermont
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 122
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
A skid plate might be a good idea along with a heat tape for freezing weather wrapped round the fittings along with insulation since it just "all hangs out" back there.
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Another reason why we love the Nature's Head: even in a worst case scenario all we're spilling is gray water.
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01-29-2016, 09:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
Breckenridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 75
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Lots of good comments here - I appreciate all the insight.
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02-02-2016, 12:15 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2011 23' FB International
1975 Argosy 30
Santa Barbara
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 151
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I would very much recommend the 15" wheel + better tires recommendation switz made. I have a 2011 23FB and upgraded to 15" wheel and yokohama tires (which I'm not sure I would recommend). It made a big difference, specially when I saw that two of the marathons were starting to have the ominous bubble.
Before you do more than that (and maybe even before you do even that) I would recommend you take your trailer onto some dirt roads. Pick a spot ~miles into a dusty dirt road. After the adventure is over consider how much is worth doing and what your priorities are :-). The first thing I had to do was to seal every opening I could find, and there are lots! (I think I posted photos a few years ago.) Such as under both the left and right tall cabinets, behind the bathroom sink cabinet (an area that is impossible to reach without unmounting the entire cabinet), etc. After all this we only find a little dusting in our trailer after dirt roads as opposed to shovel fulls... Oh, and then you need to figure out how you keep the cabinet doors closed and the valence under the sink in place. If you are still looking forward to the next off-road adventure with your AS after that spend the $$ on the lift kit :-).
Our attitude is that while we don't want to unnecessarily abuse our AS we do want to use it fully and if that means it gets some dings and scratches then so be it. But I believe most AS owners baby their trailer more than this.
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02-03-2016, 06:42 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1972 23' Safari
Norwalk
, Connecticut
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tvoneicken
I have a 2011 23FB and upgraded to 15" wheel and yokohama tires (which I'm not sure I would recommend).
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Slight thread drift, but can you elaborate on what you don't like about your Yokohama's? I assume they are Ry215's. Seems like most I've read is positive. I've been contemplating between Michelin's and these, but thinking the narrow tread may not be idea for rocky roads and soft surfaces. We plan to tow onto the beach where low PSI float is king!
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02-03-2016, 07:00 AM
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Rivet Master 

2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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The 15" Michelins have a wider foot print than even the GYM 15" ST tires which makes for better braking. In the "Images" link under my avatar are side by side photos of the stock 15" GYM ST and a 15" Michelin as well as with the 16" Michelin. I did not take a comparison photo of with the 14" GYM ST tires.
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