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Old 05-30-2021, 09:40 AM   #1
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Badlands boondocking July 4th and heat

I'm debating on which generator to bring. I have a single a/c unit, and two generators to choose from: a Honda 2000 and an off brand contractor grade open frame 4000w generator.
Will it be too hot to live without a/c and go with the Honda? Or do I bring the heavy loud a$$ generator that can handily run my a/c?
Any first hand experience for this scenario?
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Old 05-30-2021, 10:16 AM   #2
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Some of those open frame gennies are not legal during fire bans. And it's not really over reach. They can spark, and the dry pine needles all over that area will spread like, well, the thing that it is. You don't want to be responsible for burning down a national treasure.
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Been there / done that at that time of year with no A/C. We survived fine. In other years we might have baked. There's no way to predict what you will run into. Hopefully you are out. and about in the heat of the day. The only real issue is the temperature at night.

I agree that a construction generator is not a great idea. I'd look into a parallel kit and a second Honda. It will be tough to sleep with a monster machine thundering along by your trailer.

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Old 05-30-2021, 12:37 PM   #4
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Will the smaller generator run the AC? I’d bet it would with a SmartStart.
You aren’t camping in Florida or Alabama, where the temperature and humidity persist through the night. A quick google search shows average July lows at 59F.
Run the fans during the day and run the Honda in the evening with the AC if needed.
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The Honda EU2200 will run your 15,000 BTU with an microair easy start installed. I converted mine to run on propane and it works great for A/C.
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Get a 2nd Honda and run them together.
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I would rather be hot than listen to a contractor type generator. Which badlands are you talking about?
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Hello Alabama!
Not sure if you have been West before. By Badlands I assume you are referring to Western NE or SD.

Once you get West of a line at about Salina KS/Grand Island NE, you leave the Ozark ecosystem and its humidity for the more desert-like high plains. There is a drier climate in the high plains, with less humidity.

It will get hot during the day. Around 90 is good guess. But once the sun sets, it will get cooler. Like 70-75 or even cooler. And since the air is drier, you can be comfortable sleeping with windows open and fan running after dark.

So if your only concern is do you need the AC to sleep at night, then I would say no you won't. If you need to keep things cooler during the day, then you will want to be able to run your AC. In that circumstance I would also probably get a second honda generator if I needed to run the AC.
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Which CG will you be in the Badlands?
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Are you sure the "off brand contractor grade open frame 4000w generator" would actually do better running the AC then the Honda 2000?
Some of those generators are 240 volt so each leg would only be 2000 watt, as in 2000 watts is all you would have for AC.
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Grew up close to badlands, days will be hot with little shade but evenings cool down nicely. If the heat is unbearable move 50 or so miles into the Black hills to camp and visit Badlands on day trips.
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No matter what you do generator wise, you need the MicroAir EasyStart(s). It really adds to the overall conditioning of the A/C unit(s). My 16 year old A/Cs
really run a lot smoother and quieter with them installed. The added electronics condition the power.
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You will not make any friends running an open frame contractors generator. Get a pure sine wave inverter generator. We have a Champion 3150 electric start w/remote and it will run our 15000btu AC with no need for a MicroStart.
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Badlands boondocking July 4th and heat

If you are in the national park and run a contractor-grade open frame genset, you will get to meet a Park Ranger. A grumpy one, probably (they hate these calls…)
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If you are in the national park and run a contractor-grade open frame genset, you will get to meet a Park Ranger. A grumpy one, probably (they hate these calls…)
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There are a lot of places beyond National Parks that get grumpy about big noisy generators running forever and ever.

My bigger fear would be making enough noise that the neighbors get significantly bothered.

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There are a lot of places beyond National Parks that get grumpy about big noisy generators running forever and ever.

My bigger fear would be making enough noise that the neighbors get significantly bothered.

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Well n2916s was actually talking about a safer result of the neighbors being bothered. Were the neighbors go through a third party rather then taking matters into their own hands (that can get bad).
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To add some details, we are boondocking in the renowned spot by the cellular towers, and there are four trailers in my traveling party.
If necessary, we're willing to isolate ourselves somewhat, and camp back away from the "edge".
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Honda EU2200 Companion 2020 model w/ Bluetooth monitoring/shut off. Same price as old model. Microair EZ Starts on all units. Just ran one in Everglades NP over 95 degrees oppressive humidity in AS23D (13.5 Dometic) Runs in eco-mode. Whisper quiet. Will only run 1 A/C at a time. On a off-topic interesting discovery: after EZ Start install, A/C will now run on 110 shore plug….. very very happy w set-up.
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Honda EU2200 Companion 2020 model w/ Bluetooth monitoring/shut off. Same price as old model. Microair EZ Starts on all units. Just ran one in Everglades NP over 95 degrees oppressive humidity in AS23D (13.5 Dometic) Runs in eco-mode. Whisper quiet. Will only run 1 A/C at a time. On a off-topic interesting discovery: after EZ Start install, A/C will now run on 110 shore plug….. very very happy w set-up.
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Worst case is normally when you run in near freezing weather in heat pump mode.

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Honda EU2200 Companion 2020 model w/ Bluetooth monitoring/shut off. Same price as old model. Microair EZ Starts on all units. Just ran one in Everglades NP over 95 degrees oppressive humidity in AS23D (13.5 Dometic) Runs in eco-mode. Whisper quiet. Will only run 1 A/C at a time. On a off-topic interesting discovery: after EZ Start install, A/C will now run on 110 shore plug….. very very happy w set-up.
Your signature says 23' which should be 30 amp. That means the only thing you can plug into without damage to your trailer is 120 volt. My guess is you meant A/C will now run on either a 15 amp or a 20 amp shore plug.
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