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Old 08-03-2004, 11:49 AM   #61
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Malcolm, The tool you mentioned for making the compound curves is called an english wheel.
English wheel or press and die? Even a wood die would be good enough for the skin.

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Old 08-03-2004, 12:48 PM   #62
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Bucked rivits would be fine...

Ted,

It is my understanding that the bucked rivits would be great. The Olympic pop-rivit type are a necessity if you can not get to both sides of the skin to do the riviting. They are also a lot easier for someone who does not have any riviting experience or must do it all by themseleves. If you have someone with riviting experience I say go for it.

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Old 08-10-2004, 06:37 PM   #63
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Got the new sheet all lined up and drilled and clecoed yesterday.Removed it this morning.Deburred and cleaned up holes.Put a whole tube of vulkem on everything the reinstalled panel with clecos.Gave my wife a five minute lesson in bucking rivets then went at it.Really happy with results.Can't wait to get back to work to tell sheet metal guys my wife does a better job bucking rivets than they do.Really proud of her.
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Hurray! Looks great. I ordered a sheet of 2024 T3 today. May I have my wife call your wife for tips on bucking rivets?
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:08 PM   #65
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Working on streetside panel now.Used up all my clecos.
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:14 PM   #66
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New name for your unit: The Copper Porcupine.
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:16 PM   #67
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OK, I want clecos, too.
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Cleco's

For a one time or small sheet metal repair job, cleco's are not necessary.

You can use #8 pan head sheet metal screws instead.

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Old 08-16-2004, 02:29 PM   #69
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You are also going to have a bunch of dull 1/8" bits, give them a second use in life.

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Old 08-18-2004, 08:28 PM   #70
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That's the big one done.A few clecos left on front edge to tie in new front panel.Next time I'll use .040" per Andy's advice,it would be a lot easier to keep flat.Now I'm trying to figure out which panel to do next.
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What a way of getting out of polishing your trailer!

Anyway, how did you drill out your rivit holes in the new big panel? Did you make new holes in the frame or did you try to find the old ones?

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.040" as in panel thickness?
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On another recent thread Andy had reccommended .040 thick aluminum when replacing side panels.a good idea for the sides.It would be a little tougher and would lay flatter than the 032.
To pick up holes I drilled though existing holes on overlapping top panels.I replaced all stringers and lower "U" channel so all new holes from inside.To get holes in frames I had my wife back up panel on outside and center punched holes from inside with a punch bent 90 degrees.I did not want to drill new holes in frames and weaken them.
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That is beautiful! What did you use to seal the fay surfaces? Vulkem, Sikaflex, Thiokol or ??
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On the aft panel I used Vulkem.I ran out of Vulkem and used Sikaflex on the side panel.I prefer the Vulkem by far.The Vulkem stays wet for most of the day which is better for the rivets sealing as they are installed.In the heat and humidity I had here the Sikaflex is drying almost as it comes out of the tube ,a real pain.Clean up is much easier with Vulkem,could use varsol.With the sikaflex I had to use lots of MEK.I would only reccommend Sikaflex for edge sealing a panel or window.I'll use up what I have but never again.
At work they use a polysulfide sealant that has a 20 hr pot life.When I get back from vacation I'll see if I can get some expired sealant for other panels.
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Thanks - you answered my original question! My concern initially was making swiss cheese out of frames/stringers.

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Actually one more question - could you drill out holes from the inside using the original frame holes as a guide rather the center punching?
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Because of the "c" shape of the frames you cannot pick up holes by drilling from inside without an angle drill.I could not borrow one while I was on vacation but will when I am back to work next week for other panels.

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I was hoping that I could use a long drill bit - seems to me you could drill 1/8 then open up to a larger hole from the outside - do you think this would work?

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Because of the shape of the channel the drill would come out of the panel at an angle off to one side of the hole.
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