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06-07-2023, 03:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Jax Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 81
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How do I replace this rivet?
My 2020 FC 28 popped an interior rivet that is located over the overhead storage cabinet above the sink. It is inaccessible with my rivet gun. It is also a little weird in that it's not at a panel joint or in line with any other rivets.
As you can see in the pic, the rivet gun isn't going to work.
Any thoughts on how to replace?
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06-07-2023, 03:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member  
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Tualatin
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 210
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If you remove the cabinet door will you then have enough room for the rivet gun?
Steve
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06-07-2023, 03:08 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Jax Beach
, Florida
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 81
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No, the top of the cabinet itself extends about an inch in front of the rivet hole.
Glenn
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06-07-2023, 03:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Tualatin
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 210
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If the rivet hole is "covered" by the face frame of the cabinet then I think you're down to a sheet metal screw and one of the low profile ratchet screwdrivers.
https://www.amazon.com/MulWark-Profi...13564086&psc=1
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06-07-2023, 03:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB International
Lewisville
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 241
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I would just glue in a dummy rivet.
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06-07-2023, 03:30 PM
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Rivet Master 
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,296
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I would put a lath screw in
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06-07-2023, 03:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,498
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NO NOIZE
I would just glue in a dummy rivet.
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So would I.
Tim
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06-07-2023, 04:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
Durango
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: 1975 25' Tradewind
Posts: 3,487
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Rivet is there for a reason. - use a #8 ss sheet metal screw
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06-07-2023, 05:21 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 23' FB International
aldinga beach
, south australia
Join Date: Aug 2022
Posts: 226
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yup...screw it
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06-07-2023, 05:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,340
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Do it once and do it right. I'd take down the locker and re-rivet. I guarantee you the locker mounting needs reinforcing anyway.
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06-07-2023, 07:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2018 28' Flying Cloud
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 295
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I had same happen above our cabinet over the dinette. With some scrap 2x2's and plywood, I made a support for the cabinet so when I removed all the mounting screws, the cabinet didn't move. Slid the cabinet out a few inches to access the rivet. Slid cabinet back in place and reattached. With the cabinet doors removed, the frame is relatively light.
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06-08-2023, 02:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2018 30' Flying Cloud
New Hudson
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 120
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Mine did the same, was at the factory repair center and asked them to replace it and they said they wouldn't, requires removing the entire cabinet and isn't hurting anything by not being there. Repair guy said it was common for those to pop because of the window awning on that side of the trailer (mine is a 30fb bunk) said if they did replace it it would likely pop again some time down the road.
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06-08-2023, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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I had same issue on my 23D (2017). Haven’t replaced it after 4 years and no issues.
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06-08-2023, 06:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,323
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I find I always have one rivet that keeps popping out. I gave up on replacing it. Missing one rivet out of thousands isn't going to matter. Leave it or put in a dummy as suggested above.
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06-08-2023, 08:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB International
Lewisville
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 241
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne&sam
i find i always have one rivet that keeps popping out. I gave up on replacing it. Missing one rivet out of thousands isn't going to matter. Leave it or put in a dummy as suggested above.
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06-14-2023, 09:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,707
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That rivet is not really load bearing…except to tie two pieces of aluminum together. In all likelihood, it sheared off due to the two panels working back and forth. You can just about bet that if you go to all the headache of removing the cabinet and re-riveting it’s going to recur. I’d use a SS metal screw. Very tough metal. Having been at the Service Center multiple times, I’ve never had them miss a fix. Go with the guys who have built the trailers and “graduated” to repairing them.
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06-14-2023, 11:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 26' Flying Cloud
Hemet
, California
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 70
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My 2018 26ft did the same exact thing in the same spot. Didn't bother to replace it and have had no issues in several years. I wouldn't worry about it.
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06-14-2023, 11:37 AM
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Texas Toaster
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Smithville
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitusNW
If you remove the cabinet door will you then have enough room for the rivet gun?
Steve
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I had this same rivet problem on a 2019 flying cloud 27FB. Removing the door gave no better access. I even tried using a screw but Matilda no room.
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06-14-2023, 11:39 AM
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Texas Toaster
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Smithville
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitusNW
If you remove the cabinet door will you then have enough room for the rivet gun?
Steve
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I had this same river problem on my 2019 FC 27FB . Removing the door gave no better access. I even tried to use a screw with no better results. Still not repaired.
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06-14-2023, 05:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Tualatin
, Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 210
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I've been thinking about this and wonder if something could be easily made to duplicate the action of the standard rivet puller.
I'm thinking of two plates. Insert the rivet through the top plate and secure the shank of a rivet with a twist so it wouldn't pull through the bottom plate. With full threaded bolts or all-thread and a couple of nuts, you could separate the plates which would set the rivet. Height of this "rig" should be small enough to fit between the cabinet and the roof.
Anyway, food for thought.
Steve
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