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04-26-2011, 07:10 PM
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Rivet Master In Training
1965 22' Safari
Mount Airy
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 132
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Heater Hole Patch....
Looking for some suggestions, I am replacing the furnace in my 65 Safari, I am considering one from a later model Airstream. The new furnaces have the much smaller intake and exhaust ( the small rectangular plate with the 2 holes in them ). I was considering just putting a patch over the existing hole and making smaller hole in the patch for the new intake and exhaust plate. I have not done any riveting as of yet, and a little leery. Any other creative suggestions ?
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04-26-2011, 07:31 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
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My hole was not as big as yours, but I patched it with a square patch, and the exhaust for the new heater ended up right above it. It looks fine, nobody notices unless they are looking for it. It wasn't very hard to do either. I just sealed it with a bead of vulkem and riveted it on.
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04-26-2011, 07:37 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefrobrts
It wasn't very hard to do either. I just sealed it with a bead of vulkem and riveted it on.
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That's the trick isn't it? Apart from that, you could cut the AL in the shape of Texas, or a heart and make it more decorative, but a patch is a patch.
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04-26-2011, 07:51 PM
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Rivet Master In Training
1965 22' Safari
Mount Airy
, Georgia
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Stef, what kind of rivets did you use ?
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04-26-2011, 08:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
That's the trick isn't it? Apart from that, you could cut the AL in the shape of Texas, or a heart and make it more decorative, but a patch is a patch.
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Now there is a flash of creativity.
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04-26-2011, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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Well.. it looks like you are going to have to patch it. Aside from appearances, I'd be wary of possible leakage.
The pop rivets have the mandrel (stick) thing in the middle and a hole on the face where water can get in. Pop rivets are solid but require a whole setup to do.
No really great choices.. unless.. there really is a creative solution.
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04-26-2011, 08:14 PM
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1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
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Buck rivets don't look like an impossibility, given that the inner shell is already off in that spot (from what I can see in the photo).
Failing that, rent a rivet shaver and go with Olympic rivets.
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04-26-2011, 08:32 PM
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Rivet Master In Training
1965 22' Safari
Mount Airy
, Georgia
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I thought about going Olympic, but who rents the shavers ? those darn things are expensive !!
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04-26-2011, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
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04-26-2011, 08:41 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
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I used olympic rivets and cleaned them up with a dremel tool, and then went to a rally where one of our unit members had a rivet shaver and he cleaned them up proper for me. Though if you have a steady hand, you can probably do a very passable job with a dremel, just don't let it bounce off onto the panel around the rivet!
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04-26-2011, 08:48 PM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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I found before and after pictures. This was a couple years ago, now the 'newness' of the patch has worn off and it doesn't stand out as much.
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04-26-2011, 09:19 PM
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1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
Buck rivets don't look like an impossibility, given that the inner shell is already off in that spot (from what I can see in the photo).
Failing that, rent a rivet shaver and go with Olympic rivets.
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I have successfully 'shaved' my Olympic rivets with a Dremel grinder. Take your time and you can't tell the difference as if you had used an expensive shaver.
Neil
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04-27-2011, 10:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Eureka Springs
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Kevin,
I had a similar problem last year. Our coach was set up for commercial display, and had the furnace door, but furnace was removed. We wanted to relocate furnace, so I found a mobile RV mechanic to install new furnace in new location.
I was left to patch the hole. Thanks to advice on this column, the following pics show what I did.
I laid out rivet spacing on the patch with a divider, so spacing is consistent. I then drilled all holes in patch on drill press.
Next step was to locate patch and drill holes in coach. I temp fastened patch with screws. (Picture shows tape in place, but remove it before riveting.)
Next, spread Vulcum over mating surfaces and rivet with Olympic rivets.
I nipped off ends and then masked the surrounding area in case of a slip up, and carefully smoothed rivets with small wheel in drill. I then touched them up with a file.
All is well!
PS!! Hideous graphics are gone! Her exterior looks like a normal AS now!
Bob
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04-28-2011, 01:42 AM
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1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
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That is a nice looking patch!
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04-28-2011, 06:02 AM
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1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
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I did the same on my 65 Safari. I used Olympic rivits and I did buy the shaver tool. Yes it is expensive but it really did a professional job. I also patched the tv & radio antenna holes. Also added an eve over the rear trunk. The shaver tool made all these look great. After polishing you almost can't tell the dif. from Olympic and Buck rivets. You can see the new furnace vents just behind me.
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04-28-2011, 06:49 AM
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Rivet Master In Training
1965 22' Safari
Mount Airy
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Wow, ya know the best looking patch does not look like a patch at all, and if you had not said something, I would never have known. Excellent job. I am now inspired to go ahead and try to patch this myself with the olympic rivets. I feel fairly certain i can make it look acceptable. The other thing that I have come to appreciate from reading so many of these rivet posts, is that patches are ok, and in some cases offer up stories and add more character to these old campers. I have to remind myself often that this is a 46 year old camper and it will never be perfect again. The value to me now, is the journey to bring this camper back to something my family and I can use and enjoy. And with a little luck, attention and care, maybe it will last another 40 years.
Thank you to all that have posted, I will keep this thread updated with my progress.
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04-28-2011, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master In Training
1965 22' Safari
Mount Airy
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 132
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Tim, that is a great lookiing Airstream. do you have any other pictures of the repair ?
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