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Old 07-12-2015, 07:26 PM   #1
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Shelving ideas for wardrobe conversion

I am wanting to convert our large wardrobe cabinet to a kitchen pantry of sorts by installing shelves (ideally re-positionable). Does anyone have photos and experience they might help me with in accomplishing this project? Thanks in advance for any and all thoughts you have!

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We use the cloth closet hangar things that you can use for purses and a smaller shoe one for the smaller closet in bedroom
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:24 PM   #3
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We use the cloth closet hangar things that you can use for purses and a smaller shoe one for the smaller closet in bedroom
That's a good idea. I will keep it in mind.

What I'm looking for ideally though are deep shelves to utilize as much space as possible.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:20 PM   #4
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Adding 'shelving'... well, I wouldn't.

In our AS, the 'floor' of the closet won't support a serious load like it seems you are planning. You will need to modify things to take the 'load' all the way to the inner floor and spread the load across a couple 'outriggers' which support the floor. From there you can 'build' up to the 'closet floor level' then begin your shelving.

Heavy items need to be low... like canned things/pots like Dutch Ovens... as you go up, lighter things.

You then need to find a way to attach the upper parts to the closet wall. This usually means drilling additional holes and trying to mount braces across at least 2 ribs... then attach the 'shelving' to that.. sounds kinda harsh ..

May I suggest rather getting the closet floor supported better then install a plastic 'storage' box(s)'...

We have the 'hanging' style cloth that has 'shelves' to hold the bulky, light items like Wife's purses, shoes, rolled up sweaters, etc..
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We built shelves, but not really doing what you are doing. But might give you some ideas:

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Closet conversion

We did a really cool temporary conversion of the small clothes closet in our 20'. We wanted to be able to remove the shelving and not leave holes should we ever decide to sell. Using grey plastic electrical conduit and plywood shelves we were able to fill the closet with more than enough shelving for both summer and winter clothing for our 2 month solo trip to Newfoundland and Labrador from New Mexico. Holes were drilled into the corners of the shelving and the conduit was cut to length so that the union would support the shelving at the four corners. The plywood was sized to fit the entire width and depth of the closet. We now have enough usable shelving to store our clothing and still have room for any overflow that needs to be readily accessible. Of course we lost the standard closet hanging space but gained a ton of storage.
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Kitchen pantry

We removed the shelves in our pantry & replaced with the ikea pull out units they sell for kitchens. Works great. Did leave top shelf due to the curve at ceiling.
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I kept it simple and removable,
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We bought shelving drawer units from the Container Store.
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Old 07-13-2015, 12:37 PM   #10
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I faced the same problem when I repurposed the wardrobe in my 1958 Caravanner, 100 % gutted the 22 footer for starters. At first I was concerned with keeping the wardrobe depth about the same. I found, at Home Depot, some very strong plastic totes at about $12 each. Bought 12. They are about 12" high, 14" wide and about 14" deep. The lids are removable like a standard tote but these have another very worthwhile feature. One side is heavy clear plastic which swings up and then slides back under the lid. IN this way contents may be viewed. I put 2 side by side and stacked 3 high. Round cans are laid on their side usually one behind the other of same item with contents marked with a black Sharpie. The next can layer above the base layer takes advantage of cans' roundness nesting on 2 adjacent cans below. Most items lay flat and stack. Remaining spaces on left and right of second/third can layers are some of your cardboard boxes ( cereal, microwave popcorn, beef or chicken stock when not canned) Load density is probably three times that of adjustable shelves even when shelves are placed at varied openings. Who needs needs a whole shelf dedicated to short soup cans and cereal boxes and bags of noodles. Unless shelves are tightly packed, contents slide around and wind up on the floor (without strong doors.) Packed tightly the stuff located at the rear of a shelf is a guessing game.= content shuffling. In the totes, nested shapes are gravity locked. Totes can be removed and reprovisioned at home. I have a counter top which folds down and rests atop the 2 upper most totes. Even sitting on a short stool, bottom totes are hard to retrieve the contents. Am going to change to 3 wide and 2 high ( new location mostly over the wheel well) and replace the counter with a 42" wide one. Another such "array" is going over the opposite wheel well and holds every thing needed, candles, kerosene, 1 pound propane bottles, pots/pans, paper goods, etc. (all except cloths and linens.) My totes ride in the back of my Escalade EXT for OTR and are moved inside my rig using a wheeled foldable "Little Red Wagon" and up my slant ramp. This takes 3 full wagon trips (loads)
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Old 07-13-2015, 02:45 PM   #11
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The Lazy Daze brand of motorhome have a sort of door-within-a-door. When you first open it there is a pantry (somewhat narrow, to be sure). Then on further opening there is the wadrobe. At least that's what I recall having loked at that brand a while back, so you might get an idea for an approach.
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Old 07-13-2015, 03:23 PM   #12
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How did you fix the shelves in place?
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:26 PM   #13
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We put in drawers from the Container Store. We use the bottom 2 for pantry items, 2 for undies, 2 for junk. Sorry can't get picture right side up.
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Old 07-14-2015, 04:25 AM   #14
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We also tried the cloth hanging shelving unit but I must've bought a cheaper one because the top bent a lot, where is the one that we have in our house did well.
We may try either an IKEA arrangement or a container store arrangement like suggested. Though the conduit arrangement is wonderful!!
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:03 PM   #15
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Fabulous ideas!

Wow, amazing ideas and photos! I can't thank you all enough. I knew I could count on my fellow forum members to help me out. Really impressed.

Thank you!!!
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We have a wonderful cabinet company, Dozier Cabinets, who built pull out shelving, exactly as you have in your kitchen, in order that nothing gets lost in the back. It works perfectly for us. Good luck.
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These are the cloth shelves I mentioned earlier in this thread. I finally got around to putting the video together on our youtube site.

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Old 09-25-2015, 09:50 PM   #18
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As others haave done, we installed a drawer unit from the Container Store. Works great.

BUT, as cwf mentioned earlier, the closet floor will NOT support the kind fo weight that some people may want to store in the closet. We had to reinforce the closet floor directly down to the trailer subfloor in order to obtain sufficient strength to store pantry type items in the closet.

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Old 09-25-2015, 10:09 PM   #19
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My Shelving Solution In my 2012 25' Flying Cloud

Here is a post that I did back in 2014 on how I added shelving to our 2012 Flying Cloud 25'. I think this turned out nice and is totally removable if the next owner doesn't like it. I give detailed instructions in the post
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:22 PM   #20
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Seeing that others did it successfully, I tried to add the Elfa drawers to half of my double closet in a 30', and was disappointed to find that although they have a 14w x 21d frame to fit my 14x22 closet, it doesn't fit into my particular 22" deep closet with enough frame clearance for the drawers to open or to fit around the lower and middle door hinges. This is on a 2015 30' International. I'm sure I saw pictures from others who did this, but I can't see how to make it work in mine.
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