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Old 02-15-2017, 08:54 AM   #1
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L-Shaped lounge not what we need

We have a 2013 flying cloud with L-shaped lounge. What I would like to do is remove this lounge and put a double recliner in its place or something to that nature.The problem being that I'm not sure exactly how to dismantle what's there already and how to move things around or jockey things so that the space is utilized best. Looking for any ideas or things that other people have done here to achieve this goal. TIA
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:26 AM   #2
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I removed the front section of my L couch to make room for 1 lounge chair. Very easy, screws and staples. I left the rest of the seating and storage intact. When I sell the Safari I can easily reinstall the couch.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:37 AM   #3
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I removed the front section of my L couch to make room for 1 lounge chair. Very easy, screws and staples. I left the rest of the seating and storage intact. When I sell the Safari I can easily reinstall the couch.


Pictures? Just move the chair out of the way and take a picture of the hole... love to see it.
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:23 AM   #4
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If you look under the lounge of any Airstream you will see the difficulty of modifying the seating. Different models and years have different locations of equipment.

Ours had only the converter/charger under the side lounge and it was back away from the front seating. So we removed the entire dinette and lounge seating in about an hour with a power screw gun, put two recliners in and built a storage cabinet over the converter.

The 28 lounge model has the furnace and converter/charger under the streetside lounge. A member, BAB, has taken the front lounge out of his, put in two recliners, and modified the side lounge over the furnace and converter. Search his posts or contact him, very nice.
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Doug - could you share a photo? Would love to see it
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:21 AM   #6
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Pictures? Just move the chair out of the way and take a picture of the hole... love to see it.
Previous thread with photos.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f46/...al-134469.html
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:39 PM   #7
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Doug - could you share a photo? Would love to see it
Here's some in-process photos so you can see what's under the lounge of our 2012 FC 25 RB model, other models are different, including the FC 25 FB model. Our furnace is behind the sink, curbside.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/398600...7637145551816/
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:04 PM   #8
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Could somebody please advise me on HOW to add photos to a post?
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:18 PM   #9
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Yes, MelGoddard, click on reply post so that you get the regular posting window, the paper clip icon is the one that allows you to post picks. If you do not see it, click on the Go advanced button at the bottom.
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Old 04-19-2017, 02:38 PM   #10
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Converted to Recliners

My fall project was to remove the L-couch on my ’09 28’ FC RB and create a more comfortable seating area in anticipation of a two to three month trip to the Southwest. The primary goals were to create a storage area that looked OE and to provide adequate space for two La-Z-Boys® recliners. The couch and rear storage comes out easily by removing some screws. I owe thanks to an AS Forum poster who identified the laminate as Wilsonart ® gold alchemy. The design is typical cabinet making, glued/screwed pocket joinery, and everything is securely attached to the floor and wall. Due to the horizontal curvature and sloping sides of the trailer shell, every edge that touched the wall required me to make a template (tedious). I relocated the converter forward, created a large access panel to the water heater, four 18” deep hardwood drawers (Blumotion® full extension soft close), and a deep cubby for blankets and storage. There was a great deal of electrical stuff hidden under the original storage unit behind the couch. It was much easier to enclose than relocate. I opted to make a matching armrest, as the original was too large to keep. A ten-pack of new drawer/door pulls from Ace was much cheaper and more stylish than the originals so I replaced all of them in the main cabin. As I lost the storage behind the couch, I picked up some plastic baskets at Container Store that sit behind the recliners and provide a great deal of storage space for shoes, magazines, laptop, etc. With a rug under the recliners they barely moved, even during a couple of quick stops and a railroad crossing from hell that I didn’t see coming. I’m pleased with how it came out. My wife and I were very comfortable for ten weeks in our new seating on some of those cold NM nights and a colder than expected AZ winter. Now I just have to find someone who wants to buy the original couch!
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:03 PM   #11
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That is really sweet. Looks like the factory did it! What is the edging on the drawers? Is that laminate as well? The same Wilson Alchemy?
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:27 PM   #12
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My fall project was to remove the L-couch on my ’09 28’ FC RB and create a more comfortable seating area in anticipation of a two to three month trip to the Southwest. The primary goals were to create a storage area that looked OE and to provide adequate space for two La-Z-Boys recliners. The couch and rear storage comes out easily by removing some screws. I owe thanks to an AS Forum poster who identified the laminate as Wilsonart gold alchemy. The design is typical cabinet making, glued/screwed pocket joinery, and everything is securely attached to the floor and wall. Due to the horizontal curvature and sloping sides of the trailer shell, every edge that touched the wall required me to make a template (tedious). I relocated the converter forward, created a large access panel to the water heater, four 18” deep hardwood drawers (Blumotion full extension soft close), and a deep cubby for blankets and storage. There was a great deal of electrical stuff hidden under the original storage unit behind the couch. It was much easier to enclose than relocate. I opted to make a matching armrest, as the original was too large to keep. A ten-pack of new drawer/door pulls from Ace was much cheaper and more stylish than the originals so I replaced all of them in the main cabin. As I lost the storage behind the couch, I picked up some plastic baskets at Container Store that sit behind the recliners and provide a great deal of storage space for shoes, magazines, laptop, etc. With a rug under the recliners they barely moved, even during a couple of quick stops and a railroad crossing from hell that I didn’t see coming. I’m pleased with how it came out. My wife and I were very comfortable for ten weeks in our new seating on some of those cold NM nights and a colder than expected AZ winter. Now I just have to find someone who wants to buy the original couch!


Love the ideas! This is great......
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Old 04-20-2017, 05:14 AM   #13
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That looks REALLY nice. Congratulations on such a good job. A few years ago I was wanting an L Lounge, as a matter of fact, I was getting Babs' lounge but I could not link up with him and eventually, someone else got it. I ended up going a different direction anyway- too much under my couch now- one-third is electrical due to solar. I really like the way you added cabinetry.

Question, if you wanted to replace your counter tops, would you have to do it on your own or would a shop do it for you? I have talked to two local companies who look at me cross-eyed when I say trailer cabinets. I figure as you ventured into the "realm" you may know such information!
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dvewing that looks great!!! Nice job.

rodsterinfl if you remove the countertops your self and bring them to a counter top place they will use them as templates. I have not had a problem with the countertop makers, why should they care what the countertop is for.

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That is fantastic. I wish my skills could do that.
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drawer edging

Thanks. The edge banding comes in a large roll: .018" thick, 15/16" wide, 600' long. Yes, it's a large roll. You apply it with contact cement, trim the edges, and lightly sand smooth if necessary. I used CabinetParts.com for all of the sheet goods, edge banding, etc. Their prices and service were outstanding.
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I think Joe is right. If the originals are fitted properly they would make good templates. Or, find a smaller shop willing to take on a small project. We're thinking of changing out all of the counters and dinette to Corian, quartz, or some other solid surface material. I would probably have to find a shop to do it. A less expensive and attractive alternative is Formica or WilsonArt. Formica is offering a Boomerang series of laminates that echo the 50's and look pretty cool. They'll send you samples, too.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:48 PM   #18
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Here's some in-process photos so you can see what's under the lounge of our 2012 FC 25 RB model, other models are different, including the FC 25 FB model. Our furnace is behind the sink, curbside.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/398600...7637145551816/


I need to know make and model of recliner you have please....
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Well looks like we're going to pull the trigger on a new Lambright Relaxor Loveseat Recliner. http://www.glastop.com/rv-furniture-detail.asp?id=374
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Front l-shaped lounge removed.... replaced

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We have a 2013 flying cloud with L-shaped lounge. What I would like to do is remove this lounge and put a double recliner in its place or something to that nature.The problem being that I'm not sure exactly how to dismantle what's there already and how to move things around or jockey things so that the space is utilized best. Looking for any ideas or things that other people have done here to achieve this goal. TIA
This is what I ended up with after 4 years of trying to find somebody to do it for me..... I did it myself.
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