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01-31-2011, 11:28 PM
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1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Which 7 way round pin out is for my airstream!?!?
Greetings nwaddle!
Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstream ownership!
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Originally Posted by rwaddle
I need some advice from the experts.
I bought this adapter
Adapter 7 Way (Blade) to 7 Way (Round Pin) Hopkins Wiring 47595
but it's not working properly for me between my 2009 dodge and 1973 airstream.
(I get my license light flashing with a left blinker and my left trailer brake light on constantly with no blink, no other lights)
Can anyone direct me to the correct information?
I can re-pin the adapter, if I locate the correct pin out for trailer.
Thanks if you can help!!!
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I don't know of any commercially available adapter that will work between a current industry standard blade type connector and the 1970s era Airstream round-pin connector. The highest probability is that what you will need to do is work between the blade-type wiring diagram and the Airstream round-pin wiring diagram. My best guess would be the following:
Good luck with your investigation.
Kevin
P.S.: My suggestion would be to add a 7-pole round-pin connector to your tow vehicle and wire it for your Airstream - - there shouldn't be any problem with having both round-pin and blade-type connectors on your tow vehicle. Since the only two trailers that I ever tow are my Overlander and Minuet, I have replaced the blade-type connectors on my tow vehicles with the corossion resistant round-pin connectors.
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AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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02-01-2011, 08:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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My guess is that your trailer is wired like my Argosy. I have been working with owners of AS's in this era '73, '74', 75'. These trailers were wired differently than todays trailers. Here is the wiring diagram that I think will apply to you trailer. You can check your trailer pin out with a battery charger to see what makes what work.
Do you have a receptacle on the front of your trailer that the umbilical cord plugs in to? If so you might be able to pull it out far enough to check the wire colors. If the "charge line" wire is blue, it's probably the same, you can check that by looking at your converter.
I bet your Dodge truck is wired like my '98 Dodge, I've included the pin out for my UCord as well.
The Argosy colors are as follows:
Yellow = brakes
White = Ground/common
Blue = charge line
Green = tail and marker lights
Brown = Right turn/Stop
Red = Left turn/Stop.
Black = backup lights
The colors probably will not match the colors in the UCord because it is probably wired to todays standard. Which are as follows:
White = Ground/common
Blue = Brakes
Green = Tail and marker lights
Black = Battery charge line
Red = Left turn/Stop
Brown = Right turn/Stop
Yellow = Auxillary (maybe backup light)
You may be able to make it work by switching a few wires, but keep in mind that the ground, charge line and battery wires are #10 wire all the rest are #16.
I'm sure if you were to make your own UCord up with a round pin plug for the trailer end and a flat blade plug for the truck, you could make it work without a problem. That way there is no adaptor invloved. Your UCord is the adaptor.
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02-01-2011, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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Depending on the manufacturer, the 7 conductor cable may have different color combinations. Here are a couple of examples. The seven way connector in the photo shows a purple wire, while the cable listed (click on the website address below) does not have a purple wire.
http://www.wiringproducts.com/contents/en-us/d126.html
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02-03-2011, 07:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
, Nebraska
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,014
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?????
Have you had any success with your wiring and lights?
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02-03-2011, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,073
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This is from the 1975 Service Manual.
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02-06-2011, 11:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 29' Ambassador
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 20
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Thank you all for your help. The diagrams were all helpful, but in the end I had to get a multimeter and test things out to be sure. It didn't help that I learned during the process that the PO removed 80% of all the external bulbs. **sigh**
I am now in the process of replacing them.
Thanks again!
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02-07-2011, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
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HAVE fun Waddle I will bet ya there are a lot of things the PO didnt tell ya. In our 77 I found that there was no Hot water line to the galley. ALL the 1/4 inch copper to the bathroom sink and shower had been cut,kinked over and or other wise plugged with heater hose and screw up clamps. OUR trailer had been frozen an patched and a poor job of it.
GOOD LUCK
Roger
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02-07-2011, 09:22 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1974 27' Overlander
Sault ste Marie
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 166
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You'd be well advised to check the wires all the way through anyway, as the PO might have done more than remove a few bulbs. I found my brake control wire disconnected on the fitting inside the front of the trailer. Good luck.
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