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10-19-2004, 11:21 PM
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Track Lighting & Lighting Ideas
Hi all. This is my first post. We're restoring a 1970 Overlander on our TV series, "Classic Rides" (will air on the DIY Network in the fall of 2005).
We want to do some nice lighting. Has anyone installed track lighting? I've seen some 12-volt track systems on the web.
Any other ideas or resources? Do the marine lighting companies have better choices?
This is a great forum and we've learned a lot. Many thanks!
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10-20-2004, 07:22 AM
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RivetAddict
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
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Sounds like a great show! Keep us posted on air times, etc.
You may want to check out Outwater Plastics (http://www.outwater.com). They have a lot of 12V lighting solutions along with pages and pages of architectural design materials.
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10-20-2004, 08:05 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
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Also check out a product called Trac12 by Juno at your local electrical supply house. They have a wide assortment of 12 volt lighting that will astound you. I've used a few of the single sockets in my rig and they're awesome.
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10-20-2004, 12:41 PM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicRides
We want to do some nice lighting. Has anyone installed track lighting? I've seen some 12-volt track systems on the web.
Any other ideas or resources? Do the marine lighting companies have better choices?
This is a great forum and we've learned a lot. Many thanks!
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Welcome!!
Here is a great source for 12V lights, even dimmers.
i will order the lighting supplies for my 1963 project from them.
www.swego.com
Enjoy!
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10-20-2004, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
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Yes, please keep us posted on the air dates of your show. Sounds like "Must See TV" for everyone around here. Good luck.
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10-20-2004, 08:44 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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I want to see the series, too. Love the DIY shows!
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10-21-2004, 11:12 AM
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ClassicRides, you might also want to check with Forum member "Muddy Hollow". He has some nice track lighting in his Globe Trotter ...
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11-05-2004, 06:37 PM
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1 Rivet Member
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12 volt lighting questions
Many thanks to all for lighting suggestions. I have the Juno Lighting catalog ( www.junolighting.com) as well as the Tech Lighting catalog ( www.techlighting.com). Cool stuff! Both available at my local lighting store.
Try as I might, I just don't quite understand the 12-volt system, so please bear with me... (even read "RV Electrical Systems" last night): Can I use any 12-volt lighting in my 1970 Airstream - and this would be without a transformer (which is used for 120 volt residential), yes? And then how do I figure out how many fixtures - or wattage - I can put on that track? (The track wattage?)
And now to the bathroom: what kind of fixture can I replace in there? I've seen threads on the fluorescent lights. I was even thinking of a 12-volt track system for that - the Tech Lighting monorail type with a few fixtures (the track would make the curves in the bathroom ceiling). Or, they have a neat Luna fluorescent (or halogen version) bath vanity light. Would that be compatible with the 12 volt system?
Is this too wacky? Am I off-base? I can't seem to find a good lighting person who also knows about RVs.
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08-29-2008, 02:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Tucson
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I've got many of the same questions as were posted awhile ago from Classic Rides (sorry I did not catch any of the shows, but did find some clips on youtube).
Anyway - can anyone answer these questions regarding the use of monorail and other track lighting systems. I just posted a bit ago about some excess cable lighting I have, but realize now (after being brought to light) that it might be a bit too flimsy for use in Ophelia Overlander.
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05-17-2020, 09:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Talent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfshr
Also check out a product called Trac12 by Juno at your local electrical supply house. They have a wide assortment of 12 volt lighting that will astound you. I've used a few of the single sockets in my rig and they're awesome.
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I too have looked at the offerings from Juno Trac12 and am stuck with no one able to verify that the 12v AC fixtures with work with our 12v DC wiring. Any responses are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Richard
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05-17-2020, 10:01 AM
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Rivet Master
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narrow body
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClassicRides
Hi all. This is my first post. We're restoring a 1970 Overlander on our TV series, "Classic Rides" (will air on the DIY Network in the fall of 2005).
We want to do some nice lighting. Has anyone installed track lighting? I've seen some 12-volt track systems on the web.
Any other ideas or resources? Do the marine lighting companies have better choices?
This is a great forum and we've learned a lot. Many thanks!
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That is a barrow body unit and can be pretty challenging to use track lighting and have it look good. Also 12 volt track lighting can be hard to find if you have that special look in mind, and it sounds like you do. 110 volt can be converted to 12 volt if your a DIY guy. :-) Just an idea.
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05-17-2020, 10:08 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Della
I too have looked at the offerings from Juno Trac12 and am stuck with no one able to verify that the 12v AC fixtures with work with our 12v DC wiring. Any responses are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Richard
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The Trac12 system when used in your home has a transformer that steps down 110 volts AC to 12 volt DC which works perfectly with your RV system which is 12 volt DC. I have four of the single port twist and turn connections in my TradeWind. One over the dining table, one over each bed and one under the galley cabinet and they all work perfectly. The only thing I still need to do is to get LED bulbs to replace the Juno halogen ones.
Brad
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05-18-2020, 07:30 AM
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Rivet Master
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Denton
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narrow not barrow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan@LED4RV
That is a Narrow body unit and can be pretty challenging to use track lighting and have it look good. Also 12 volt track lighting can be hard to find if you have that special look in mind, and it sounds like you do. 110 volt can be converted to 12 volt if your a DIY guy. :-) Just an idea.
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"narrow not barrow" sorry about the typo
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05-18-2020, 04:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Talent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfshr
The Trac12 system when used in your home has a transformer that steps down 110 volts AC to 12 volt DC which works perfectly with your RV system which is 12 volt DC. I have four of the single port twist and turn connections in my TradeWind. One over the dining table, one over each bed and one under the galley cabinet and they all work perfectly. The only thing I still need to do is to get LED bulbs to replace the Juno halogen ones.
Brad
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Thanks Brad . . . what I needed was someone who has used these 12v systems with success and sounds like you have, so I will proceed with these Juno Trac12's. The last light I used had non-replaceable bulbs/lamps so had to thro it away. But on that one, which was a 110v AC with a transformer. So I just cut the transformer out of the loop and it worked fine for years . . . till it didn't. Thanks again, Richard & Della
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05-19-2020, 12:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Talent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfshr
The Trac12 system when used in your home has a transformer that steps down 110 volts AC to 12 volt DC which works perfectly with your RV system which is 12 volt DC. I have four of the single port twist and turn connections in my TradeWind. One over the dining table, one over each bed and one under the galley cabinet and they all work perfectly. The only thing I still need to do is to get LED bulbs to replace the Juno halogen ones.
Brad
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Hi again. Reviewing your comment I wanted to verify that you are not using this Juno Trac12 system with shore power = 110v, therefore utilizing the transformer. I want to hook this system up to my 12v wiring here in the Airstream, so, with or without an electrical hookup it can run on battery. I'd appreciate a reply when you can to help me understand your comment.
Thanks,
Richard & Della
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05-19-2020, 02:10 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Della
Hi again. Reviewing your comment I wanted to verify that you are not using this Juno Trac12 system with shore power = 110v, therefore utilizing the transformer. I want to hook this system up to my 12v wiring here in the Airstream, so, with or without an electrical hookup it can run on battery. I'd appreciate a reply when you can to help me understand your comment.
Thanks,
Richard & Della
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Yes, it runs off the battery and works well when boondocking.
Brad
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