Taillight Bulbs

[Trailer Girl]

I am having problems figuring out the correct bulb to purchase for the tailights on a 1964 Overlander. The bulb with the single contact worked out fine, but I am having no luck getting the bulbs with the 2 contacts to fit down far enough... so I must be using the wrong bulb. Abyone know the corect bulb number?

[RoverOwner]

send an email to Andy at Inlandrv.com. He's been super helpful and knows lots about the old stuff

[Trailer Girl]

Thanks for the direction! I will email him

[Inland RV Center, In]

Trailer girl.

The old time correct bulb is a 1034.

The new style replacement is an 1157.

They both have double elements, one for the tail light and the other for a brake light.

You can rewire the old tail light to do away with the single bulb.

Andy

[74Argosy24MH]

The little tits on the side of the bulb base are not even side to side, make sure when you put the bulb in the socket it is right. Old sockets will get rusty and hard to push to the bottom, there is a spring that will hang or crud gets behind the contacts. Try washing behind the contacts with something like WD40 and pushing in on the contacts with a screwdriver to loosen it up.

John

[Trailer Girl]

Well still no lights! Thanks Andy for the #'s. I have loosened the sockets, replaced one and no luck getting the 1157's in there. Soo,,, I have paused - got some cheapie tailights so I can move it to the location to begin the work. I still have to find the lenses, also.

I sense this will be minor compared to no floor under the bathroom!

[Van]

Dont forget to make sure the contacts are clean and if your switching to the new lights your well grounded. It is an issue i have been dealing with while repairing and upgrading things on my trailer.

[59toaster]

Originally Posted by Trailer Girl

Well still no lights! Thanks Andy for the #'s. I have loosened the sockets, replaced one and no luck getting the 1157's in there. Soo,,, I have paused - got some cheapie tailights so I can move it to the location to begin the work. I still have to find the lenses, also.

I sense this will be minor compared to no floor under the bathroom!

I would take a test light and verify that there is power to the wire before blaming the bulb. I had connection problems with corrosion in the plg where it attaches to the tow vehicle. The ambilical is not difficult to replace. On my coach the cord enters on the curb side of the hitch. below and twoards the right of the front window from the inside is a acess plate the covers the electrical connections. It may be hidden by the sofa or dinette cushions.

If you do find you have a problem just at the socket try taking some fine sand paper and cleaning the socket. If they have corrosion it will not have a path to ground. I allways put a coating of "DI Electric greese" on the bulb base. This will help prevent moisture and oxidation that will make for a poor contact.

If the socket is not salavagable check the "help" setion at the local parts store. If all else fails you can buy a trailer tail lamp and drill out the rivets that retain the socket. Just look for a style that will work, they vary.

Your lenses are probably the Bargman 99's

www.airstreamdreams.com Sells a relly good reproduction. They are otherwise no longer made. Sometimes there is a suply problem so if they currently don't have them they probably will in a few weeks. They are wonderful to deal with.

These show up on Ebay as well.

[Trailer Girl]

Thanks 59Toaster & VAN- Some cleaned up with sandpaper, replaced the "pig" (?) on one and still could get no bulbs in. It is like the little pin on one side of every bulb is too high. I wired in some cheap tailights and established a new ground wire. I have tailights, T/S, and brake lights now! I will search for the lenses and straighten this out after I fix the rear end sag- Oh Joy!

Your help has been invaluable. Now on to wiring the new trailer plug...

[74Argosy24MH]

The pin is not too high, there are 2 filaments in the bulb, 1 brake and 1 tail light. The pins are really "keyed" so the bulb will only go in one way. Look at the socket, the cutouts for the pins are not even side to side either. If they are it probably has only 1 contact on the bottom and isn't for the 1157 bulb.

John

[Trailer Girl]

Well the 64 Overlander lit up today! I got inexpensive tailights to be able to move it, and I think I will replace them one day with the 7 " LED tailights. Between this frustration with bulbs and needing new lenses, maybe the LEDs will be the answer to the 2 problems. One of the threads on dim lights proved helpful today- the forum will be invaluable as I "rehab" my 64

[bredlo]

I would love to recondition my Bargman 99's with LED lights inside, so that during the day they would appear completely stock, but at night I would have the advantage of the brightest "wedding cakes" in the world

Has anyone ever done this? OR, is it so simple that dozens of people have done it but I just haven't read about it.

[silverleeper]

Hi Brad,

What LED setup did you use to replace the stock bulb? I still have the Bargman 99s and I'm not real impressed with the light they put out. Thanks Lee

[bredlo]

Hey Silversleeper-

Yeah, my Bargmans left me feeling totally alone and under prepared in the pitch black Cascades during a snowstorm. Giant semis would come barreling over the hill behind me and all I could do was grip the wheel and start pulsing the breaks furiously, hoping they'd see me before it was too late. I swore that brighter, better lights would be the first thing I do to the exterior.

Unfortunately, I haven't gotten to try this idea out yet. First I have to gut, clean and dress this thing... LED tail lights will be a really sweet, but much later item in the "to do" list.

[silverleeper]

Hi Brad,

I live in the Pacific NW also and like to be seen on the dark and rainey nights. I have seen some options out there. Let me know if you want my two cents.
Lee

[walter1]

I would like want your 3 cents worth and any info on this. I have a 64 Safari and would also like to retrofit leds and still use stock Bargman 99 lens

[raebaker06]

Originally Posted by Trailer Girl

I am having problems figuring out the correct bulb to purchase for the tailights on a 1964 Overlander. The bulb with the single contact worked out fine, but I am having no luck getting the bulbs with the 2 contacts to fit down far enough... so I must be using the wrong bulb. Abyone know the corect bulb number?

Install # 1157 dual contact lamps. They are standard auto 12VDC lamps available at any auto suppy store. Also you will note that the bayonet on the case are off set. there is only one way to install them look at the lamp and then the socket . One pin or bayonet is off set.

Rae

[silverleeper]

Originally Posted by walter1

I would like want your 3 cents worth and any info on this. I have a 64 Safari and would also like to retrofit leds and still use stock Bargman 99 lens

Hi Walter1,

I have found two options on Ebay. Search for "1157 super white red right angle 30 LED bulb" and "1157 red 90 degree aka flat LED light bulb". If you have any problems I can send you the links. Hope this helps.
Lee