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Old 04-18-2021, 09:36 AM   #1
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Surge Protector

I am going to be hooking up my 25 ft 2005 Safari LS on a brand new electrical meter. It will be the only thing hooked up on the meter. The plan is to have it there for at least a year and I will be using it intermittently throughout the month. Is it still recommended to get a surge protector for when i am using the airstream? Thank you!
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:11 AM   #2
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I use mine always. There is no cheap fix from anything that would cause my surge protector to engage. It's pretty much a one-time good expenditure.

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My suggestion: I would get surge protection regardless. If the meter is yours, you can add a base plate surge protector to the meter. That's good, but its not portable. Given you'll probably want one for your trailer anyway, I'd go ahead and get a portable one now, using it there as well as anywhere else you plug into shore power.

That said, it's your rig and your money, so it's your call. Best wishes for a nice, quiet, boring experience when it comes to using shore power.
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I'd use some kind of surge protection no matter, permanent, pole based, portable, hard wired in the AS, etc.
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Okay, I’ll be devil’s advocate here — is there a “surge protector” on your home? There isn’t on mine. I have all my electronics plugged into the wall along with all my appliances. Nothing has failed in my 35 years of residence from a “surge of power”. Mains power is remarkably reliable and clean. The only surge event likely would be a lightning strike and, in that case, all bets are off no matter what gadget you hang off your power pole.

In a campground, you should definitely use one because of miswired posts, brown-outs, worn-out contacts...

On a dedicated line, as the sole consumer? I don’t think so.
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It would not hurt to have an EMS (Energy Management System) protecting your Airstream while you are away. A larger concern for me would be the possibility of having your batteries cook if the trailer is attached to shore power 24x7. An upgrade to a multi stage converter is always a good idea.
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Old 04-18-2021, 03:11 PM   #7
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Surge Protector

Surges do happen. My home refrigerator got fried when the power company lost a transformer and surged the heck out of the line.

I installed a Progressive Industries EMS/Surge protector and a decent 4-stage converter with a power line monitor and manual transfer switch over the last week. Cheap insurance.

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I am going to be hooking up my 25 ft 2005 Safari LS on a brand new electrical meter. It will be the only thing hooked up on the meter. The plan is to have it there for at least a year and I will be using it intermittently throughout the month. Is it still recommended to get a surge protector for when i am using the airstream? Thank you!
Yes!

Low cost and reward far outweighs risks and costs without one.

No-Brainer equation IMO.
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We do in fact have a meter base surge protector for our home. We had our electric company install it and we pay them a small monthly fee, which includes repairing / replacing the surge protector if a surge from the grid blows it out. So yeah, we believe in surge protection.
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So, your power company gets to charge you extra to protect you from them?

Interesting.
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Old 04-18-2021, 07:19 PM   #11
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Thank you all very much for the help, much appreciated!
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Old 04-18-2021, 07:22 PM   #12
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I am going to be hooking up my 25 ft 2005 Safari LS on a brand new electrical meter. It will be the only thing hooked up on the meter. The plan is to have it there for at least a year and I will be using it intermittently throughout the month. Is it still recommended to get a surge protector for when i am using the airstream? Thank you!
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The power company in not immune from surges!
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Old 04-18-2021, 07:25 PM   #13
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Thank you any suggestion on what one is a good buy?
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Yes. it is a MUSt

it has saved our AS many times, from low and high voltage conditions

its best to mount a permanent one inside, thus nothing to forget or get stolen
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:22 AM   #15
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Suggested Brand of 30 Amp Surge protector

Any suggested brand or model I should look at for a 30 Amp surge protector?
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For our RV we have the 30-amp version of this unit, which includes surge protection: https://hughesautoformers.com/voltage-boosters/
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Okay, I’ll be devil’s advocate here — is there a “surge protector” on your home? There isn’t on mine. I have all my electronics plugged into the wall along with all my appliances. Nothing has failed in my 35 years of residence from a “surge of power”. Mains power is remarkably reliable and clean. The only surge event likely would be a lightning strike and, in that case, all bets are off no matter what gadget you hang off your power pole.

In a campground, you should definitely use one because of miswired posts, brown-outs, worn-out contacts...

On a dedicated line, as the sole consumer? I don’t think so.

I like this post. Thinking outside the box.


This probably comes down to a simple math problem. I would venture to guess there has been more money spent on surge protectors than damage caused from faulty shore power. I would also bet it's not even a close race.
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I look at power controls the same way I look at spare tires. No, you don't need them and they're a lot of extra weight. Until, of course, you DO need them - in which case, they are worth their weight in gold (or even bitcoins)!

We had a Hughes Autoformer for our Navion. It worked great and did a good job of boosting low current levels. The one thing I would recommend if you go with one of these is to buy at least one additional surge module. These things blow a non-replaceable fuse to protect you from a surge. When we owned one, you had to send your unit in for replacement. Now I see they sell the surge module separately, so you could apparently swap them out while at your campsite. I would get at least two.

The other thing to consider with the Autoformer is that if you have a 30-amp or 50-amp unit, you won't be able to use it on a 20-amp circuit. The unit will sense the low current and try to boost it - which immediately trips the 20-amp circuity breaker/fuse.
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<snip>...The other thing to consider with the Autoformer is that if you have a 30-amp or 50-amp unit, you won't be able to use it on a 20-amp circuit. The unit will sense the low current and try to boost it - which immediately trips the 20-amp circuity breaker/fuse.
I had noticed this behavior but didn't realize that was causing it. Perhaps the simpler (and somewhat less expensive) Hughes surge protector is all most folks need. https://hughesautoformers.com/product/pwd30-epo/
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