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Old 02-06-2018, 11:02 AM   #21
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I have to agree with Johnnyooo....2 generators are a hassle, if your just trying to drive your AC. I thought we had some folks on the Forum who were running their 1300AC's with a Honda or Yamaha 2000 without the Easystart? Maybe your 1100 can be driven by one of these. If you could find a dealer (call your RV dealers) who would let you try out the Honda or Yamaha 2000 first with your AC, that is what I would recommend.

Most of the time in CA, we did not use the AC, so earlier we just had a single Champion 2000 and it served all our electrical needs, with our 25' AS's. That model is quiet, light weight, and 1/2 the price of Honda or Yamaha. Very reliable.

When we got our new 28', I thought about getting a second Champion 2000 and connecting them together, like Honda, but didn't want the hassle of 2 generators, plus the gas. That's why we moved to propane and the Champion 3400 Dual Fuel.

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This is an interesting discussion on this subject. I would encourage participants to check out what Dometic recommends as to generator size. When I purchased my trailer from an Airstream dealer I received paperwork for all the accessories
( great resource ) smoke detector, toilet, radio, microwave, cooking stove, a/c unit, heater, water heater etc.,etc. When I started reading posts on this forum and others I came to rely on the instruction pamphlets, and I was enlightened!
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:04 AM   #22
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The op has an 1100 air conditioner. Did anyone ask his question??
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:54 PM   #23
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The 11,000 BTU AC requires 1600 run watts and Fridge requires 600 run watts; for total 2200 running watts. Starting the AC requires a whopping 2400 watts for 3 second duration. Recommend the Honda 3000 Handi generator or Champion 3200. Both will provide good reliable service for the long term future
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:42 PM   #24
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We are talking about the Airsteam Warranty ( Dometic unit ) not Honda. Not being argumentative just trying to stay on point. Itís more of a issue for people that have Airsteam Trailers under factory warranty and maybe extended warranties.
Not to argue either but that was the point I was making.
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Not to argue either but that was the point I was making.
Yes your right! I need new reading glasses! Sorry!
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:23 PM   #26
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Yes your right! I need new reading glasses! Sorry!
Thatís quite all right. I just got a new pair so I had a slight advantage.
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Thatís quite all right. I just got a new pair so I had a slight advantage.


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Old 02-06-2018, 09:11 PM   #28
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Old 02-06-2018, 09:38 PM   #29
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The 11,000 BTU AC requires 1600 run watts and Fridge requires 600 run watts; for total 2200 running watts. Starting the AC requires a whopping 2400 watts for 3 second duration. Recommend the Honda 3000 Handi generator or Champion 3200. Both will provide good reliable service for the long term future
Not sure about you, but when I am "boondocking" my refrigerator is running on propane--not a generator...I conserve all I can on electric. Only use generator to charge when solar will not work or when using AC in extreme need. I understand what the specs say...just asking if anyone has tried the 1100 W AC with a Honda or Yamaha 2000? If it says 1600 watts, it may work fine with the 2000...as I mentioned, I believe some have run their 1300AC this way..waiting for someone to chime in and confirm Im not hallucinating...which would freek me out!
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This is an interesting discussion on this subject. I would encourage participants to check out what Dometic recommends as to generator size. When I purchased my trailer from an Airstream dealer I received paperwork for all the accessories
( great resource ) smoke detector, toilet, radio, microwave, cooking stove, a/c unit, heater, water heater etc.,etc. When I started reading posts on this forum and others I came to rely on the instruction pamphlets, and I was enlightened!
Enlightened or delighted?? You can learn a lot from the Forum..not saying it is always best advice, but lots of experience here for sure! Lots of "rivets" to show for all that experience! I would encourage to read the specs on what you don't understand, and also learn to trust the experience from the folks who have also found other solutions to make our lives on the road more enjoyable through their experiences. One only follow the battery and converter issues in past few years experienced by many of us, or the GYM tire experiences as an example...not everything you read in the manual assures you it will work as advertised...in the end, its all mostly mechanical and electrical. If a 2000 w generator fires up your AC and it works fine...that's great, no? If you don't feel comfortable, do what you please...free country, right?
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So I take it from the discussion the Factory will not install EasyStart on a factory installed A/C unit. Iím going for my 2 year warranty visit in April.
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So I take it from the discussion the Factory will not install EasyStart on a factory installed A/C unit. Iím going for my 2 year warranty visit in April.
I am wondering about the warranty concern of adding the EasyStart? I've not read one Forum user complaining the EasyStart does not work; nor have I read a warranty issue from installing. If your going to use a smaller Honda 2000 or Yamaha generator and want to run your AC, EasyStart has many satisfied users here. That is the way I would recommend and I would also install, if I wanted to use the smaller 2000 w single generator to drive my AC. Still, my original question lingers...has anyone ran their 1300AC with the Honda or Yamaha 2000W unit without the Easy Start? How about the 1100AC on the smaller 16' model? inquiring minds want to know...
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The 11,000 BTU AC requires 1600 run watts and Fridge requires 600 run watts; for total 2200 running watts. Starting the AC requires a whopping 2400 watts for 3 second duration. Recommend the Honda 3000 Handi generator or Champion 3200. Both will provide good reliable service for the long term future


When hooked up to an inverter 3100 champion dual fuel can I run my ac 11,000 btu and tv? The fridge which I can use on propane, will have no draw correct? What about my lights? I just bought my Bambi 16 Sport 2 days ago and my sister already wants to boondocks but I'm nervous. Not much money left for extras so I was looking at the Champion 3100 vs the 3400. Honda and Yamaha out of my reach right now. I like the idea of not carrying around gas cans in back of truck so I like the option of dual fuel. I don't want to tax my inverter so afraid to go lower ie 2000 but a lot of people say get 3400 which I'm not sure I need. Help
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When hooked up to an inverter 3100 champion dual fuel can I run my ac 11,000 btu and tv? The fridge which I can use on propane, will have no draw correct? What about my lights? I just bought my Bambi 16 Sport 2 days ago and my sister already wants to boondocks but I'm nervous. Not much money left for extras so I was looking at the Champion 3100 vs the 3400. Honda and Yamaha out of my reach right now. I like the idea of not carrying around gas cans in back of truck so I like the option of dual fuel. I don't want to tax my inverter so afraid to go lower ie 2000 but a lot of people say get 3400 which I'm not sure I need. Help
The Champion 2800 will drive your needs as you describe without an EasyStart. Only drawback it is gas; the only propane/gas combo is the larger Champion Dual Fuel; even the propane re-configured 2000 Honda's don't do[U] both [/U]gas or propane...once you convert to propane, that's it. I would not worry about that however, I would just use the propane...works fine.
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Sportsman brand has a 2200W peak generator that is dual fuel. You can find it at Walmart and Home Depot, should be in the $400-500 range. I have no experience with it (yet?), but on paper it should cover your needs easily as it provides 1800W with peak of 2200W.
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I went with the Honda 3000i which works for me....It weighs 78 lbs, has a long handle and wheels to easily move when on the ground...And two handles to pick it up and put it in your vehicle... One of the quietest on the market...Honda is Very reliable...
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A 3000i will do the job for you....No need for dual generators...
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Sportsman brand has a 2200W peak generator that is dual fuel. You can find it at Walmart and Home Depot, should be in the $400-500 range. I have no experience with it (yet?), but on paper it should cover your needs easily as it provides 1800W with peak of 2200W.
Won't start the AC. MicroAir did several experiments with the EasyStart, and the Honda and Yamaha models worked well, and I believe perhaps B&S? But the 2000Champion would not and others would not either...you should contact Mateo at MicroAir to verify what works and what does not, if your thinking something under 3000w...least I would recommend. I know the Champion 2800 will also work with the 13.5AC; neighbor has one.
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