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08-02-2018, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
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New Borockton
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Shore Power Cord
I've never bought a "new" Airstream but I've had several, 4 to be exact. Is Airstream delivering all new units with the now Smartplug 30 or 50 amp AC connector or are some of them still being delivered with the old L5-30 twist type? The marine industry is abandoning that product because of fires but not sure how fast the RV industry will adapt.
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08-02-2018, 09:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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IMHO as long as the old, inexpensive L5-30 is available, that’s what will be installed at the factory. I certainly hope the SmartPlug becomes more common, because from my point of view it makes much better sense from a reliability standpoint, and it’s bunches easier and quicker to connect.
We’ll see how it progresses in the market.
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08-02-2018, 10:11 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
IMHO as long as the old, inexpensive L5-30 is available, that’s what will be installed at the factory. I certainly hope the SmartPlug becomes more common, because from my point of view it makes much better sense from a reliability standpoint, and it’s bunches easier and quicker to connect.
We’ll see how it progresses in the market.
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It's fascinating. You look at a the temps after just a few minutes. The marine guys are already on board for obvious reasons the but its the same in the RV side. I did hear AS is shipping new units with them at least as an option but maybe stock OEM. Need to talk to Brad.
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08-02-2018, 10:17 PM
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2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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I have looked at the new SmartPlug RV power components on some other RV. My neighbor has it on his new Class B. It's really cool and east the way it works.
I would seriously consider this update on Lucy. Has anyone here done it and how has it worked out?
Brian
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08-02-2018, 10:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' Flying Cloud
NCR
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here a link to what they look like
they look better than the old twist lock
http://smartplug.com/why-smartplug/
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08-02-2018, 10:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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I’ve put one on my AS. It fits in the exact same hole and fastener pattern. Most of my difficulty was getting a pound of hardened caulk out from behind the original plug. After that, it went in slick.
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08-03-2018, 12:31 PM
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The Aluminum Tent 3
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City
, Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
I have looked at the new SmartPlug RV power components on some other RV. My neighbor has it on his new Class B. It's really cool and east the way it works.
I would seriously consider this update on Lucy. Has anyone here done it and how has it worked out?
Brian
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I put one on my 23FB; when I recently sold it and got a 2014 23d, I immediately got a Smart Plug. On both of my installs, it took a little modification on the inside of the trailer to get the whole plug assembly to fit. (The back of the assembly contacted the inner skin, so I could not get the outside to fit flush with the outer skin.) It seems on some models/sizes, it is not an issue.
I love the upgrade, it is a much more solid connection, and the plug connection does stay noticeably cooler, especially when running a high load such as the AC. I also love the solid 'locking' connection to hold the plug in place, instead of the cheap plastic threaded ring on the old Furions.
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08-03-2018, 06:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' Classic
2012 28' International
Greensboro
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I did the install two years ago and really like the simplicity. The positive latching mechanism works really well. Not inexpensive, the price=value as far as I’m concerned
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08-03-2018, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
MILAN
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Smart Plug 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
I've never bought a "new" Airstream but I've had several, 4 to be exact. Is Airstream delivering all new units with the now Smartplug 30 or 50 amp AC connector or are some of them still being delivered with the old L5-30 twist type? The marine industry is abandoning that product because of fires but not sure how fast the RV industry will adapt.
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Randy, Is this what you have used on your "68? I am looking into changing out my shore power cable and was looking at the Marine Furion connection. I am hoping that you have already converted yours to have you post info and pictures of your installation. Thanks, Ed
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08-03-2018, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGED52
Randy, Is this what you have used on your "68? I am looking into changing out my shore power cable and was looking at the Marine Furion connection. I am hoping that you have already converted yours to have you post info and pictures of your installation. Thanks, Ed
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Hi Ed,
Actually I sold my 68 a few years ago but kept the handle My friend owns it now and I'm trying to buy it back. One of those things where I can't let him know how bad I want it back haha.
I was sent a sample of the 30 amp combo kit by the manufacture and I'll I can say is wow. The way it easily connects, locks in place, and isn't subject to the weight of the cord is remarkable.
They offered for us to be a master distributor since we specialize in the electrical supplies only and it became a no brainer once you have the product in your hands to compare. 20X more contact/connectivity to reduce resistance and heat over the Marinco and Furion connectors.
The inventer (Kevin Smith) was a mariner and watched one too many boats catch fire from the L5-30 at marinas and decided it was enough. FWIW, Made in the USA too. They are more expensive than the L5-30 connectors for sure.
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08-04-2018, 06:04 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Watching...
...the Classic doesn't have the MM plug on the side of the trailer, only the cord to deal with. But the plug on the end still sux. 😳👎😏 Options?
Bob
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08-05-2018, 07:34 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
...the Classic doesn't have the MM plug on the side of the trailer, only the cord to deal with. But the plug on the end still sux. 😳👎😏 Options?
Bob
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Hi Bob,
Haven't talked to you in awhile, hope all is well.
The 30 or 50 amp plug on the end of your power cord is kinda limited to the type on the pedestal at campgrounds. Smartplug addresses the problems with the twist type on the vehicle where it gets so hot from minimal contact.
That said they are working with Eaton to develop a new pedestal that accepts the Smartplug as well as the old style so there will be an option for that. I suppose it will be awhile before they start showing up at RV parks but they are coming for sure.
Also, for those that use a generator or plug their RV in at home, one could easily install one for that but would require a separate cordset.
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08-05-2018, 08:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
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My generators have a 30 amp RV plug. It is part of the parallel kit.
Of course they are Yamaha's
No twist lock involved.
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08-05-2018, 09:36 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
I have looked at the new SmartPlug RV power components on some other RV. My neighbor has it on his new Class B. It's really cool and east the way it works.
I would seriously consider this update on Lucy. Has anyone here done it and how has it worked out?
Brian
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Hi Moose/Brian ha I don't know how long its been since I've been taken back by the obvious non snake oil. These company's throw samples at us all the time and I usually don't even test them. These guys have something going on.
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08-05-2018, 10:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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The pedestal end of the SmartPlug 30 amp power cord has the standard RV-30 three prong plug on it.
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08-05-2018, 11:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
New Borockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
The pedestal end of the SmartPlug 30 amp power cord has the standard RV-30 three prong plug on it.
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Yes it does. The intent is to prevent fires on the RV/ boat side. Not much yet for the campground side but it’s coming.
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08-07-2018, 10:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' International
redondo beach
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I know a lot of people upgrade the 30A connection because it gets hot with lots of current, but how about the 50A connection? My factory 50A Airstream El Cheepo seems to work OK. Any body have problems with this?
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