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08-26-2009, 11:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Shocking news...
So, I got up this morning, and went out to my moho(parked in the street in front of the home without wheels...opened the door, went inside and turned off the small electric heater we keep there for our freezing mights...went to step out, grabbed the screen door, and got the cr--shocked out of me...being the typical "HUH?" type person, I grabbed it twice more with the same result...so, I unplugged the land line...no more shock, but then I grabbed the voltmeter. With no shoreline power, I get a reading on the 9 volt setting showing a 0.15-0.18 discharge...I get this by touching the screen door with either polarity, and literally grounding the other polarity...I get this reading WHERE EVER i test...back skin to front wheelwell...anyone out there who might know what's going on...?thanks in advance...mike
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 11:59 AM
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Head Animal Wrangler
2010 19' International
2015 Interstate Ext. Coach
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Egads! I am awaiting an informed response but meanwhile I'm glad you are okay and it didn't do more than curl your hair.
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08-26-2009, 12:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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You've got my volt...
HAIR...? I have HAIR...?...thank you for your concern... m
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
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08-26-2009, 12:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
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You sure it's not just your electrifying personality Mike?
Seriously...glad you are okay!
Shari
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08-26-2009, 12:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Thanks...I knew I had a spark or two left in me...
I disconnected the house AND chassis batteries...stil showing a 0.18 discharge...only source left for this is the 2 Kyocera 130 solar panels....would anyone know if this is a normal discharge?
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
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08-26-2009, 01:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2001 30' Excella
Phoenix
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Mike, I am glad you are okay... but I do believe a perm would add to the TTQ persona...
Anyway, are you receiving .018 vdc? or AC? I did a quick check here at the house. I get the same reading off of the car when I touch a meter lead to ground and one of the wheels on the car. Everything has a minimal amount of voltage. If you were using an analog meter you would have never shown a reading.
My suspicion is you have an issue with your 120vac shore power connection. I would start with your cord and trace back by doing simple continuity checks. I can walk you through some of it if you need me to.
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08-26-2009, 01:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LHall
Mike, I am glad you are okay... but I do believe a perm would add to the TTQ persona...
Anyway, are you receiving .018 vdc? or AC? I did a quick check here at the house. I get the same reading off of the car when I touch a meter lead to ground and one of the wheels on the car. Everything has a minimal amount of voltage. If you were using an analog meter you would have never shown a reading.
My suspicion is you have an issue with your 120vac shore power connection. I would start with your cord and trace back by doing simple continuity checks. I can walk you through some of it if you need me to.
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The discharge is 0.18 DC measured on the 9V setting(don't have a 12V)...
Continuity is something I occasionally am associated with, but I may have gotten conductivity confused with continuity this morning...
The shore line is an extension cord I use for power tools, plugged into an ungrounded base with one of those 3 prong to 2 prong adapters...i ran the cord across the sidewalk under one of those rubber covers that's shaped like a doorsill...we do have a lot of skateboard traffic, so it could indeed be the cord...if you can tell me how to test the cord without shorting out my last two brain cells or setting fire to something, I would greatly appreciate it ...I kinda figured that whatever the problem was would make a spark or snap the circuit breaker...hmm, maybe I was the circuit breaker...?
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1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Perm...? I have the smallest ponytail on the planet...maybe I could do something with the facial hair...?m
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1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
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Mike,
I noticed a trickle on our 81 Excella when it was plugged into shore power via an extension cord (all three prongs) to a friends garage. Actual grounding status unknown. I was checking air pressure in the rear dually tires and got between two metal wheels. I experienced the same trickle disconnecting city water. It was lite but noticeable. Now did you say your wheels were off? Somehow I think this may be related to your attempt to conduct electrons through your meat mass...
-Ken
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08-26-2009, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2001 30' Excella
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Mike, my suggestion would be to try another cord that is grounded!! with all three prongs. Plug in your shore power cable and then take a voltage reading from the side of your MH to the Ground. It should read very close to zero. Make sure you have your meter set to read 120vac. Don't touch the side of your rig until you know there is no voltage present. If you still have voltage after changing cords, would suspect your shore power cable. I can walk you through the check on that if need be.
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08-26-2009, 02:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Ken,
The wheels were on, I was in my socks, the ground was damp...hindsight can be terribly embarrassing...but I'm still not clear(ok, ok, so I'm not clear on a lot of things) on how I got to be a current event...m
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1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 02:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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grounded...
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Originally Posted by LHall
Mike, my suggestion would be to try another cord that is grounded!! with all three prongs. Plug in your shore power cable and then take a voltage reading from the side of your MH to the Ground. It should read very close to zero. Make sure you have your meter set to read 120vac. Don't touch the side of your rig until you know there is no voltage present. If you still have voltage after changing cords, would suspect your shore power cable. I can walk you through the check on that if need be.
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Thanks...I'll go get another cord, plug it all in, and ask my neighbor to "grab that screwdriver on the counter, would you...?"...
BELIEVE me, I won't be touching anything metal till the meter tells me I can, and I'll be...uhm...apprehensive, even then...thanks for your guidance and patience...m
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1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 02:50 PM
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Rivet Master
Las Vegas
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WAIT!...I'll send my neighbor over.
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08-26-2009, 02:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2001 30' Excella
Phoenix
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I have a neighbor to send as well... keep me posted!
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08-26-2009, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
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i'll PAY to send my neighbor! put that circuit on a GFCI PLEASE!
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
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08-26-2009, 04:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Just pluggin' along
Maybe I'd better get a bigger bucket of salt water for the steps...?
OK, I Changed cords, got 116.4V at the shoreline connection, 0V at the screen door, and 116.2V at an inside receptacle. The old cord is not long enough to reach the neighbor I'm thinking about, but I'm sure if I don't come up with another idea, one of his other neighbors will...thanks for the direction, concern, and senses of humor ...BTW, am I a neighbor to any of you all...?
mike
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
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08-26-2009, 06:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Bordentown
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Okay the real question should be why you have a "moho" in the street with no wheels. The neighbors probably booby trapped it so you would move it.........maybe?
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08-26-2009, 06:53 PM
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Liberator
1972 Argosy 24
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Heart of Dixie
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Did it feel like this ?
Check your over-thuster
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08-26-2009, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doohickey
Okay the real question should be why you have a "moho" in the street with no wheels. The neighbors probably booby trapped it so you would move it.........maybe?
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Maybe the neighbors stole the wheels. Rigging it to keep you from touching it would be counter to encouraging removal of said moho. If you can't touch it, you can't move it...
Now...Honestly, it sounds like you have a bare 120 volt wire touching something it shouldn't. You should have several breakers, keep turning them off one by one until your neighbor no longer gets shocked.
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08-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
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Talk about bad neighbors. I had people living behind me that were so bad that someone posted this sign on their garage door a few hours after they were gone...
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