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Old 02-07-2015, 06:40 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Gene View Post

It is easier to have electricity for a long time boondocking, but the real limits are water—fresh water to drink, cook with and be clean, and then black and grey water to dump.

Between our 200 w. of solar and a small (1 kw.) generator, we could stay somewhere a long time, but water is the issue. Then eventually propane runs out, more quickly if it is cold.

Unless you are the real Tim Horton, aren't you Burger King now?

In my off-grid survivalist fantasy, I have already used one of those gravity filters to supplement the fresh water supply and a composting toilet to turn my black into grey. I'm not bothered by state grey dumping rules, because the state has already collapsed.

Now my limitation is propane/heat ... short of building some kind of passivhaus pad in the wilderness running on lots of solar/wind/batteries/ground heat pump I'm a little stuck. The simplist solution would be to go somewhere above freezing. Now my main limitation is food and 12V refrigeration.

Diesel has great portability, long term storability over gas, and energy density. But you need tanks, generators, etc.

My conclusion is that unless you are living the full Heisenberg lifestyle, just go into town for water and propane once a week. (or send someone else in to pick them up)
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