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08-11-2009, 05:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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New Pigtail locks up my Sovereign brakes
Recently bought a new pigtail from Out Of Doors Mart but it appears that a couple pins are cross wired. When its plugged in to my Ford Excursion it locks up my trailer brakes as soon as I plug it in and my reverse lights don't work either. My old pigtail didn't have these problems. It appears that the reverse lights and brakes are crossed wired in my new pigtail. Anybody else ever have this problem?
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
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My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
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08-11-2009, 05:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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mike, your trailer might have the Airstream pre-standardized wiring configuration. maybe someone can verify that.
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
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08-11-2009, 06:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
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I bought a pigtail off Ebay that was wired wrong,it had all the right colors,but they didn`t go to the correct pins.That thing drove me nuts trying to figure it out. Dave
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08-11-2009, 06:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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I had it
I had the problem when I plugged into my ex 2004 Ford Powerstroke truck. It was the center wire in the 7 way. I had to have the local trailer (horse trailer) folks use their tester to find the problem. Takes less than 5 minutes for everything....they charged nothing......Texas hospitality.
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08-11-2009, 08:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Here is diagram of the way the trailer was wired in 72. It's probably not the problem but it just might help. Good luck!
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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08-11-2009, 08:51 AM
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Area 63 Productions
Commercial Member
1963 26' Overlander
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1963 19' Globetrotter
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 156
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Sounds like the battery charge wire is in the place of the brake wire. This hsould be very easy to diagnose and repair.
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08-11-2009, 09:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Okay, I pulled my new pigtail apart today and found out that four wires (black, blue, yellow and red) were miswired (used the Airstream wiring diagram in my tech manual and my old pigtail as references). I told Out of Door Mart that my Airstream was a 1972, yet I still had to correct the wiring in my new pigtail. Geez!!! I expect more for 39 bucks.
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP
My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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08-11-2009, 09:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
Okay, I pulled my new pigtail apart today and found out that four wires (black, blue, yellow and red) were miswired (used the Airstream wiring diagram in my tech manual and my old pigtail as references). I told Out of Door Mart that my Airstream was a 1972, yet I still had to correct the wiring in my new pigtail. Geez!!! I expect more for 39 bucks.
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Mike,
Did you purchase the pigtail with the blade connector on one end and the round connector on the other end, or the one with the blade connector (new style) or the one with the round connector (old style)?
Bill
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
Mike,
Did you purchase the pigtail with the blade connector on one end and the round connector on the other end, or the one with the blade connector (new style) or the one with the round connector (old style)?
Bill
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I bought a 7-pin pigtail with the blade connectors on the TV side and the old style round connectors on the trailer side.
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP
My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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08-11-2009, 09:54 PM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
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Wilton
, California
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Hey there seems to be a running theme here....
Check out Floridartist's experience with what the dealer is saying the pigtail caused.. I dont know but somethings going on??
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f439...ken-54955.html
Vinnie
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08-11-2009, 09:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
I bought a 7-pin pigtail with the blade connectors on the TV side and the old style round connectors on the trailer side.
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Mike,
Thanks, which end was wrong, the blade or the round?
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-11-2009, 10:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wkerfoot
Mike,
Thanks, which end was wrong, the blade or the round?
Bill
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Both. I fixed the trailer side first assuming that was where the problem was, but found all four wires on both sides were wrong.
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP
My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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08-11-2009, 10:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mello mike
Both. I fixed the trailer side first assuming that was where the problem was, but found all four wires on both sides were wrong.
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Mike,
Did the wire colors match the plug colors on both sides, black to black, blue to blue, yellow to yellow and red to red? Has your trailer been changed to the current color code? I assume that your truck is the new color code.
Bill
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Bill Kerfoot, WBCCI/VAC/CAC/El Camino Real Unit #5223
Just my personal opinion
1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
https://billbethsblog.blogspot.com/
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08-12-2009, 06:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Bill,
Yes, right now the wire colors match, pin-wise, on both sides, blue to blue, yellow to yellow, etc... but this is still a work in progress. I found a chart on this forum that has the blue, black and yellow wires switched out on the vehicle side. I still don't have reverse lights and I need to check my brakes still (brake lights work fine).
Anybody have any tips for the TV side wiring?
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP
My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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08-14-2009, 10:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,742
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Wanted everyone to know that Dan at Out of Doors Mart has been very helpful in getting the correct wiring. Everything appears to now be correct. Dan also stated that they are implementing new QA procedures to check each pigtail before shipment.
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1958 Overlander
2011 Wolf Creek 850N TC
2011 Ford F-250 Crewcab (6.2L), 3.73RE
WBCCI #5661/AIR #5661/TAC # AZ-6
4CU 1st VP
My '58 Overlander Restoration and Travel Blog:
https://mellomikesairstreams.blogspot.com/
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08-14-2009, 10:46 AM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
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Wilton
, California
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Glad it all got worked out.
Things happen
Vinnie
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