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Old 04-24-2020, 05:29 PM   #101
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Point is why would I optionally want 2x Wen genny's, when I can do the same job with a single Honda eu2200i. Even worse, is that it's the same money. Two is not necessarily better than one here.

If you don't need to run an A/C, then I agree with you that just about any genny will do.


One Wen will run a 13.5k a/c unit. Read below from Micro-Air in regard to EasyStart.
‘There are many other generators on the market that can also produce good results. Generators with motors over 90cc are the best choice for reliable operation. Some smaller generators, such as those with 79cc motors, may be used with 13.5 KBTU air conditioners and smaller as long as all other loads are off and the elevation is not too high. All generators are not created equally or even rated equally. We recommend researching reviews, blogs, and RV websites before selecting a generator’
...so unless you have a larger a/c you don’t need to spend all that extra money for a Honda. Honda is a better unit but you can get by with the Wen or similar unit if you don’t plan on using other loads, and if you are not needing a/c all the time. For those users it may be economically feasible. Maybe not you but for me it’s ok. We don’t live in a ‘one size fits all’ world.
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Old 04-24-2020, 05:59 PM   #102
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I have no problem if you want to use what you want to use. I'm only stating my input for others that may want to understand some of the considerations in utilizing a 2000W class genny, particularly with A/C. Doesn't sound like your use case really focuses on that.

You might want to know that I've worked with Matteo a number of times, in regards to finding a solid generator that would work with a 13.5k A/C and larger 15k A/C. There's been a number of 2000W gennys that MicroAir has provided input on over the years. Some promising. Some demonstrably able. Yet in real world varied use, one stands alone. I almost bought a particular generic generator (value opportunity!) until Matteo could no longer confidently recommend it anymore based on field issues reported by others.

The reality is generators lose power with heat. Lose power with elevation. Lose power with bad gas. Lose power with wear and age. Some depth of margin is absolutely necessary for real world use. It's going to be that hot hot day, that one's generator doesn't step up to the challenge. I don't want to be in that situation where the family and kids are tired and hot, when I'd be happy to throw another $500 at the wall, but it won't have made any difference at that moment. Because I've been there even with my Honda eu2000i. Which is why I sold it for $700 and upgraded to my current Honda eu2200i for $930.

My new 15k btu Dometic Blizzard A/C, new Honda eu2200i, 7,000 ft elevation in the middle of summer. Blissful family camping. That's what it's about.
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Old 04-24-2020, 06:32 PM   #103
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Need advice on generators

So now we have both sides of the story and people can decide what’s right for them. Mine like others camp in the milder North East.
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When it comes to powering A/Cs, it matters. In the 2000W class, it's the difference between one that will work, and one that won't. Honda almost stands alone here for a 2000W class genny that can power larger 13.5 and 15k btu A/Cs reliably. There are extensive threads showing what works and what doesn't. Sure, if you want to step up to a 3000W class, with it's added weight and logistics concerns, many will work.

You might be interested to know fundamentally what you're buying. A generator depth of capacity is ultimately decided by the size of its heart - the engine.

Wen 2000W - 79.7cc
Honda eu2000i - 98.5cc
Honda eu2200i - 120cc
Yamaha 2400 - 171cc
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Yamaha 2400 - 171cc

It'll do the trick. And might be a great mid-tier choice for someone that wants to be able to run the A/C, perhaps even without Easystart, and other things concurrently.

It's also 50% heavier at 75lbs.
And almost 50% more expensive at $1475
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It'll do the trick. And might be a great mid-tier choice for someone that wants to be able to run the A/C, perhaps even without Easystart, and other things concurrently.

It's also 50% heavier at 75lbs.
And almost 50% more expensive at $1475
Hi, it's a great generator and at 75 lbs. that's my limit. Since it has two handles, my wife has helped me and that cuts the weight in half, per person. It did run my 11,000 BTU air conditioner, refrigerator, television, and converter all at once and at high altitude. I have since had a Micro-Air Easystart installed. It's been a few years so that price is about $400.00 more than I paid. At the time that I bought my Yamaha 2400, it was less than two Honda 2000's with parallel kit. [which at that time was needed to run my air condition]


Six years ago the Yamaha 2400 was the smallest, lightest, single generator that could run my air conditioner.
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I think we all have slightly different needs. I went with the Honda e2200i with the conversion to run off the low pressure tanks. Allows me to not have gas and compact unit that I can lug around. I am now thinking of the best way to stow it. When I was looking at the Oliver II, they have a nice aluminum box on the front of the hitch in front if the Propane tanks. I was thinking if I could rig a box either in front or behind the tanks. Behind would have to sit on top of the battery access. I do not have my trailer yet so do not have the measurements. My TV is a SUV and prefer not to have it in the vehicle.
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Store in the shower, well braced/padded/blocked for road motion?

No prob.

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