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Old 04-23-2020, 12:01 AM   #81
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Yamaha 2400 generator

Hi, all of my motorcycles were Hondas. My lawn mower is a Honda and my pressure washer has a Honda engine on it. But my Generator is a Yamaha 2400 partially because Honda didn't make anything comparable to it.


Note: Honda builds more engines than anyone else in the World.

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Old 04-23-2020, 06:57 AM   #82
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Depending on how much camping you do and where you may rarely if ever need a/c, so evaluate your needs and donít over buy , save your back and your wallet.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:54 AM   #83
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I put wheels on my Honda 3000 which adds to it’s height.
I actually drew up plans for a set of wheels on an aluminum platform so the added height was just 1/2". But when I realized how full the truck bed got with other stuff, I found I'd never move it anyway.
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About dual fuel.
I have mixed feelings. I know it's cleaner, but do you really want to run your RV out of propane? Also, gas is a lot easier to find than propane when you're in the wilds. Then there's the reduced power from propane.
I'll stick with gas, and I keep a "Just Rite" 2.5 gal can in a milk crate (prevents scratches) tethered in the truck bed. I found the 5 gal. can was too heavy to hold over a filler in the truck bed.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:11 AM   #85
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Depending on how much camping you do and where you may rarely if ever need a/c, so evaluate your needs and donít over buy , save your back and your wallet.
I Iím in agreement with the ďdonít over buyĒ statement. After research I have learned that I need at least 3000 watts to use my Bambi AC. Iím actually surprised to see all of the people using 2000s and 2200s. Maybe their using two.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:47 AM   #86
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I Iím in agreement with the ďdonít over buyĒ statement. After research I have learned that I need at least 3000 watts to use my Bambi AC. Iím actually surprised to see all of the people using 2000s and 2200s. Maybe their using two.
Sorry, not really. The big problem is the starting surge. If you install a device like the Easy Start and eliminate the starting surge you can run a single A/C on 2000 or 2200, I have that capability. It was discovered early on that not all 2000 generators are the same; the Honda unit actually could tolerate more than rated current and continue to run, where others like Yamaha did not. I assume the newer 2200 units have no problem running once you eliminate the starting surge. All of this assumes you have everything else AC-powered turned off. Otherwise you do need 3000 or 3500 to run A/C plus your refrig or battery charger.
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:25 AM   #87
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fridge on propane?

Am I the only one that has a after market fridge that has a switch on it that runs either on propane or 120v electric. I changed my hot water tank to a 10 gallon and also have a switch on it to run propane or electric. If I want to take a super long shower I turn both on at the same time and never run out of hot water.
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Am I the only one that has a after market fridge that has a switch on it that runs either on propane or 120v electric. I changed my hot water tank to a 10 gallon and also have a switch on it to run propane or electric. If I want to take a super long shower I turn both on at the same time and never run out of hot water.
The more you read my posts the more ingnorance you will surely discover. Iím way too new to this and so Iím not sure if my refrigerator will also run on propane. Iím almost 100% sure my sales guy told me at pickup but I canít rememebr. Iíll have to look that one up. Itís a 2020 Bambi 22fb...I donít think I can use propane with the fridge. Iím not even sure about the hot water use on propane. These are just things I need to learn.
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The more you read my posts the more ingnorance you will surely discover. Iím way too new to this and so Iím not sure if my refrigerator will also run on propane. Iím almost 100% sure my sales guy told me at pickup but I canít rememebr. Iíll have to look that one up. Itís a 2020 Bambi 22fb...I donít think I can use propane with the fridge. Iím not even sure about the hot water use on propane. These are just things I need to learn.
Your fridge AND your water heater run on propane. Just keep the fridge switch on ďAutoĒ and it will automatically select 120 volts when itís available and propane when itís not.
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Your fridge AND your water heater run on propane. Just keep the fridge switch on ďAutoĒ and it will automatically select 120 volts when itís available and propane when itís not.
I just looked, there is no ďAutoĒ setting on my fridge. Just 0-7. Maybe itís a 2020 model thing. An Auto setting would be nice though.
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I just looked, there is no ďAutoĒ setting on my fridge. Just 0-7. Maybe itís a 2020 model thing. An Auto setting would be nice though.
Your 2020 trailer has a compressor style refrigerator that does not run on propane. It runs on either 12v dc or 120v ac.
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About dual fuel.
I have mixed feelings. I know it's cleaner, but do you really want to run your RV out of propane? Also, gas is a lot easier to find than propane when you're in the wilds. Then there's the reduced power from propane.
I'll stick with gas, and I keep a "Just Rite" 2.5 gal can in a milk crate (prevents scratches) tethered in the truck bed. I found the 5 gal. can was too heavy to hold over a filler in the truck bed.

Hi, on trips, I have a mounting system for my generator in the bed of my truck and it runs there. I also have a Gerry can mounting bracket in my truck's bed. I keep a 2 1/2 gallon gas can in it. I used to carry a 5 gallon gas can but it was too heavy and awkward to use.

My Yamaha 2400 would run my air conditioner as is, but I still had an easy start installed.
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Old 04-24-2020, 03:44 AM   #93
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Your 2020 trailer has a compressor style refrigerator that does not run on propane. It runs on either 12v dc or 120v ac.


Oops!

Shane, what sayeth your:
-- Airstream owner's manual; and
-- fridge mfg. pamphlet in the Airstream-supplied-briefcase paperwork?

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The Champion 3100 inverter sure looks like a nice generator at a good price. With the compressor fridge and a truck bed to carry it in I think that would be a good choice. Cheaper by quite a bit than the 2200 Honda and an easy start. Cost is important because you need to start saving up for a Lithium battery.
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3000is Honda. Heavy at 130#+ but I can manage. For days I donít feel the Grunt I built a skid out of wood. It is wide enough for Honda and spare fuel. Using a few steps I can run it inside the camper cap, on a metal folding bench or on the ground. Inside the truck you can barely hear it.. quietest on the ground. I run it outside our bedroom (rear bed 34í) without a bother. I added the MicroAir controllers and run BOTH ACs and converter. Yes, it grunts at times, yet voltage and amps are good. At night only ruling one AC and converter. Everything else propane. If my bride Feels she needs beauty Hardware cut off one AC. Big investment, a comparison... we were over 200 feet away from a ďcontractor ď model and could hear over our Honda and AC! Need AC for sleep.

The Generac seem to make good hardware.. cheaper (canít tell you it is good... but much lighter and you can bond together for more amperage. Downside is lower fuel capacity and so, runtime. I like the Honda we have because I am not forcing the thing to work in its max motor speed to service our Electricity demands.
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Champion Dual fuel 3400 Inverter. Under 100 pounds if fuel tank is empty of gasoline. I can usually get it into the bed of my Tacoma by myself. It stays there. I have modified it to run on a propane quick disconnect port from the Airstream regulator and propane bottles.

I run mine only on propane. It easily starts and runs the single air conditioning UNIT on our 2007 22 foot International CCD in economy mode. I plan to install a MicroAir easy start module on the A/C to make it even quieter on start up.
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IMO, the Honda eu2200i is ideal for a number of reasons.
- Ability to run the largest 15k btu A/C with the smallest generator weight and footprint.
- Weight, it's only ~50 lbs which makes it much more manageable than any 3000W class generator
- Ability to mount directly on the AS tongue. Minimizing footprint and area used elsewhere to support a generator
- I don't believe in running on propane. Availability as mentioned prior. But actually running the A/C for hours and days on propane would show that resource to be quickly depleted.
- Honda reliability and value retention as a non-disposable piece of equipment. I sold my prior eu2000 model for $700 after 8 years of ownership. (to upgrade to an eu2200i to support my newly installed larger 15k A/C)

As mentioned, I have my generator mounted to the AS tongue. I also run the genny directly there. Minimal to no setup time. No hauling around. Less is more, with no extra wasted space in the tow vehicle. Things that matter in day to day use.

The single Honda eu2200i with Easystart runs my new Dometic Blizzard NXT 15k A/C. Arguably one of the highest cooling capacity (and power hungry) 15k A/Cs on the market.

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I'll say there is something better than a Honda: one that works just as well and costs half as much. It is easy to say Hondas are better 'cause you own one and never had an issue. It is hard to defend paying double unless you say it is twice the product. Hondas are not twice the product.
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Sometimes, you don’t get what you pay for. I have a Wen 2000 watt inverter generator bought on Amazon February 2017, used multiple hours camping and around home, Wen is a well established US Company. Not to devalue other brands. Around $500.00
When it comes to powering A/Cs, it matters. In the 2000W class, it's the difference between one that will work, and one that won't. Honda almost stands alone here for a 2000W class genny that can power larger 13.5 and 15k btu A/Cs reliably. There are extensive threads showing what works and what doesn't. Sure, if you want to step up to a 3000W class, with it's added weight and logistics concerns, many will work.

You might be interested to know fundamentally what you're buying. A generator depth of capacity is ultimately decided by the size of its heart - the engine.

Wen 2000W - 79.7cc
Honda eu2000i - 98.5cc
Honda eu2200i - 120cc
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The Wen for about $420.00 on Amazon you will need two with the parallel hookup to run a/c without Easy Start. But still two units will cost $1000.00, two Hondaís $2400.00 Wen is a great American Company in Ohio, I have mine going on three years no problems starts usually on 2nd pull. I am not in need of running an a/c, so I only have one.
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The Wen for about $420.00 on Amazon you will need two with the parallel hookup to run a/c without Easy Start. But still two units will cost $1000.00, two Honda’s $2400.00 Wen is a great American Company in Ohio, I have mine going on three years no problems starts usually on 2nd pull. I am not in need of running an a/c, so I only have one.
Point is why would I optionally want 2x Wen genny's, when I can do the same job with a single Honda eu2200i. Even worse, is that it's the same money. Two is not necessarily better than one here.

If you don't need to run an A/C, then I agree with you that just about any genny will do.
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