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Old 04-18-2020, 03:47 PM   #41
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If you want to start and run the Air Conditioner on a small generator you will need the Easy Start, https://www.microair.net/products/ea...t=30176048267t.



They were giving a $50.00 discount to Forum members by entering Airstream at checkout. I am on my third trailer now and they have each had the Easy Start. You can self install, or wait for a rally where they are going to be demonstrating the unit.
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Old 04-18-2020, 04:02 PM   #42
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If you want to start and run the Air Conditioner on a small generator you will need the Easy Start, https://www.microair.net/products/ea...t=30176048267t.



They were giving a $50.00 discount to Forum members by entering Airstream at checkout. I am on my third trailer now and they have each had the Easy Start. You can self install, or wait for a rally where they are going to be demonstrating the unit.

He has a 2020 trailer, so it may have one of the newer AC units that has a factory soft start built in.
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Old 04-18-2020, 06:14 PM   #43
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Champion Dual Fuel Inverter Generator.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:14 PM   #44
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We also have two Honda 2200s. Only use both with the parallel cable feature if running AC. But we like the fact that if we're not going to run AC we just bring one along. Super quiet, light, small and reliable.
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Old 04-18-2020, 08:36 PM   #45
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Exactly When we run both our Honda 2200's in parallel, we can run the AC, and anything we want. If we are not running the AC, we only need one. The key is they are super reliable, light and quiet. I would rather carry 2 Honda's at 50lbs each vs trying to maneuver a 100lb 3500 generator
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:07 PM   #46
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I find that when ever there is a generator that is annoyingly loud it’s a Champion.



You beat me to that comment. If I get next to a Champion generator, I move. Not only are they annoyingly loud but they are electrically inferior. Local ham radio operators hate them because they can't operate when a Champion is running. Honda and Yamaha are electrically and mechanically superior.



If you don't care about anybody else, the Champion's are fine. I find myself using solar just to keep from running my Honda(s)
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Old 04-19-2020, 08:28 AM   #47
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He has a 2020 trailer, so it may have one of the newer AC units that has a factory soft start built in.


Easy Start is different from a soft start in that it reduces LRA by 90%. Locked Rotor Amps is the current needed to get the AC compressor started which a small 2000 watt generator can’t do.
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Old 04-19-2020, 08:53 AM   #48
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We use one of our Honda 2000i's to run the 13.5 AC on our 25'FC. Haven't really tried it on the 15K AC but it starts and runs the smaller unit just fine with the factory-installed hard-start. Have a parallel cord set I made to connect both but so far, it works well solo. No doubt, the newer 2200i would provide some additional margin.
Be wary of favorable reviews on some of the cheaper inverter generators...some seem to perform well initially but after a season, problems may pop up and despite generous warranty terms, service may be hard to find. Also, check with your local small engine repair place; they'll probably have some experience with repairs on the various brands giving credence to the adage, "you get what you pay for".
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Old 04-19-2020, 09:31 AM   #49
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I’m gonna be needing a generator to run my 30 amp 2020 Bambi 22fb and I really need some good advise here. What’s a great generator to buy? I’ll need it to run my air conditioner, heat, TV....well I guess everything.
How do you spell H-O-N-D-A! Been a fan of their engines for 40 years. Dependable. We have a EU2000i. One issue I grappled with went I first got my 2016 Classic was: How to safely carry the generator's fuel? Just didn't think that container of gas always in the back my truck tow vehicle was a good idea if I could help it. Solution: sent my generator to Genconnex and had it fully converted to propane. Happy ever since. Works for me.
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Old 04-19-2020, 09:59 AM   #50
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Easy Start is different from a soft start in that it reduces LRA by 90%. Locked Rotor Amps is the current needed to get the AC compressor started which a small 2000 watt generator can’t do.

Easy Start is a brand of soft start and it does not change the locked rotor amps, but the starting amps. Starting current can equal the value of the locked rotor current, but they are two different things.
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Old 04-19-2020, 10:17 AM   #51
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I'd get the lightest generator you can live with. Yanking my 50lb Honda in and out of the truck is a pain. Can only imagine doing that with an awardly shaped 100lb model.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:00 AM   #52
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We use one of our Honda 2000i's to run the 13.5 AC on our 25'FC. Haven't really tried it on the 15K AC but it starts and runs the smaller unit just fine with the factory-installed hard-start. Have a parallel cord set I made to connect both but so far, it works well solo. No doubt, the newer 2200i would provide some additional margin.
Be wary of favorable reviews on some of the cheaper inverter generators...some seem to perform well initially but after a season, problems may pop up and despite generous warranty terms, service may be hard to find. Also, check with your local small engine repair place; they'll probably have some experience with repairs on the various brands giving credence to the adage, "you get what you pay for".


Sometimes, you don’t get what you pay for. I have a Wen 2000 watt inverter generator bought on Amazon February 2017, used multiple hours camping and around home, Wen is a well established US Company. Not to devalue other brands. Around $500.00
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:59 AM   #53
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I put my 3000 honda in the bed of my pick-up (bad news, it weighs 134#s) good news is, 1. It starts with turning a key. 2. I have to leave the front window open to hear it. 3. It runs everything including A/C and microwave or A/c and hair dryer or A/C and coffee macker and toaster. Not once has a neighbor complained about running it late at night running the TV and lights. It has it's space in the truck and never gets moved. Buy a Honda you won't be sorry.
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Old 04-19-2020, 12:03 PM   #54
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I want to correct an error in my earlier post ... The unit I use to run AC is not a 3400 watt rating (bran pharrt)... It is a 2500 Watt unit with 3150 surge. So if you don't mind not running your microwave and AC simultaneously, that will work for 13K AC units such as is on most 22' Bambi's.
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Old 04-19-2020, 12:41 PM   #55
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IMO:
the best long lasting generator = Honda
the best less expensive generator = Predator from Harbor Freight
the quietest tone to my ears is the Predator. Honda has a high pitched tone, higher rpm when running. Predator is lower toned, lower rpm when running.

I own both. I use both.
Honda 2000 when no air condition is needed.
Predator 3500 when air condition is needed.

I have owned a couple other brands and have used many brands during my working years. These two I noted are what I like best.

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With either or both, depending on need, I can run appliances, lights, tv, natural gas tankless water heater, etc in my home when there is a power outage. I've done this a couple times for 5 or 6 days straight. Luckily this occured during cool weather when no AC was needed. I have lots of power cords :-)
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:18 PM   #56
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I’ll always have a pickup so no SUVs for me. I’ll probably lock it down with a chain and pad lock for a little deterance. So will the Honda 2200 run my AC, heat, give me hot water, lights and water pump.

These are great replies but some of you will need to excuse my extreme ignorance on this topic. What does it mean when I read “converter”. I wish I wasn’t such a newbie, but you guys are literally the only source I have other than calling my salesman everyday.
I think a Honda EU3000 is what you need if you can leave it in the back of your truck.
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I think a Honda EU3000 is what you need if you can leave it in the back of your truck.


What’s your salesman’s advise?
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:35 PM   #58
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I think a Honda EU3000 is what you need if you can leave it in the back of your truck.
Yup!
Mine lives in the truck if I'm traveling. For removing it at home, I purchased the Harbor Freight 1000# hydraulic table.
(the 500# table doesn't go high enough) I waited for a sale.
So, I schootch the Honda on the tailgate, raise the table, slide the generator on, lower and roll it into the garage. It stays on the table in the garage until needed. (That table is built like a tank)
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Problem is that Champion also makes cheap ‘contractor type’ open frame dual fuel generators that are NOT inverter generators. Those ARE obnoxious beyond belief.
Open frame contractor generators have not been designed with quiet in mind.

Inverter generators like the Champion dual fuel are very quiet (maybe a hair louder than a pair of 2k Hondas).

But one important fact about Champion is they are American. Here's my story:
I needed to get a generator and thought the Hondas and Yamahas were a bit pricey. Being cheap I purchased a "barely used" Champion that had fallen off the truck probably and broke some electronic components on the electronic module. Amazon gave me my money back and said "keep it". While this was going on I purchased a new dual fuel Champion.

Then I called Champion customer support here in the US. I think their design engineers take customer support calls! I told them the story and when they heard I was going to donate the generator to a group of people that needed it, they sent the $180 module to me for free.

These generators are quiet and clean. Don't listen to the Honda people. Hondas are great until you see the price tag.

Try watching generator reviews by Airstreamers Lololo on Youtube. They review many brands.

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Champion model 100263 3400W DualFuel inverter generator for me. Had it since 2017 and have about 250 hours of runtime. As quiet as a Honda 2000. Honda 3000 is quieter, but it is too tall to fit under my truck’s tonneau cover. This inverter style generator runs below 60db so it’s allowed in National Park campgrounds. When I occasionally use mine for A/C or microwave use I always ask my neighbors if they even heard it and they always say no. If you’re over 50’ away it’s barely louder than the sound of nature with wind, kids playing, traffic . . . I run it on propane only and it starts easily every time.
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