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07-24-2015, 07:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Westminster
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Hubbell Twist Lock 15 amp (?) Adapter vs Bargman 30 amp
I have a 1959 Overlander, which I just removed the Hubbell Twist Lock adapter. I believe it says 15a - for amp? Anyhow. I'm not sure what it's for, if I need it...should I patch over that hole? Should I find a replacement for it? I understand the 30 amp adapter (which is missing for all intents and purposes. The shell was intact, but basically a hole), and that makes sense to re-install...but what about the Hubbell adapter?
Thanks in advance!
Rachael
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07-24-2015, 08:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
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Hubbel is what I run. Great product!
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07-24-2015, 08:42 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Westminster
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 63
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So, are they the same thing??
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07-25-2015, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
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Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
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15 and 30A (letter "A" denotes Amperage rating).
They are "not" the "same".
There have been improvements in quality and safety over the decades. If you want to go with Bargman power supply cord sets, use the Bargman socket for the rating you desire.
I upgraded our AS to 50A using Hubbel products. There is a waterproof cap on the socket and waterproof cover with screw cap on the twist-lock plug.
What specifically do you want to know? Using the Hubbel components I was able to make my own power cord in a length I desired. I can move the connectors to Fresh cabling should this one become damaged. Just my choice for a way to do things.
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WBCCI# 30676
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07-25-2015, 09:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Latest and greatest (?) thing. Being used by several SOB and marine manufactures.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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07-25-2015, 10:27 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Westminster
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 63
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I'd like to know if there is a reason to keep both.
Am I able to use an adapter to plug into my house power?
I'm in the process of patching holes, and if I don't need one, I'd like to just patch over it with buck rivets instead of waiting till later and using pop rivets.
Thanks for your help!!
Rachael
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07-25-2015, 11:40 AM
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Slowpoke
2012 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 255
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You need to use the correct terminology to enable someone to answer your question.
An "adapter" does just that - adapts one kind of plug or socket to fit into something else. I can only assume, since you are talking about something that is permanently mounted in your trailer's skin, that you are talking about what is properly called an "inlet receptacle." That's what a power cord would plug into. I have never seen a "15A twist lock" receptacle in my decades of experience with RV and marine electrical systems.
If you are rewiring the trailer from scratch, you will want a 30A inlet receptacle. There's no reason for two. There are several brands available - Hubbell, Marinco, Furrion - and, as someone mentioned here, Smartplug, which isn't a twistlock, and is actually better in several respects.
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07-25-2015, 11:52 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 26' Overlander
Westminster
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 63
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Good grief! I didn't realize that snark came free of charge. I'm unapologetic that I don't have the "correct" terminology. If I knew what I was talking about, I wouldn't have posted a question. I did a Google search, and the word "adapter" attached. The receptacle, as you call it, says "hubbell twist lock" and was permanently afixed to the front of the trailer. I'm sure it's not a typical thing. My airstream also didn't have the correct/period lights on the top, but that's the way it was made. Stranger things have happened.
Thank you for answering my question about whether I need both or not. I'll just do the 30amp.
Rachael
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07-25-2015, 12:37 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Nemo
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painterfam
I'd like to know if there is a reason to keep both.
Am I able to use an adapter to plug into my house power?
I'm in the process of patching holes, and if I don't need one, I'd like to just patch over it with buck rivets instead of waiting till later and using pop rivets.
Thanks for your help!!
Rachael
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Aesthetically, it might be preferable to replace both the 15 and 30 Amp inlets rather than patching the hole for the 15 and relying on just the 30 for connection. Without knowing your situation, I can imagine me using the 15 Amp inlet just to power the battery charger when the trailer is sitting in storage where a 30 Amp connection might not be available. This would save having to use your 30 Amp cord set and an adapter. A simple selector switch on the battery charger primary is all you'd need.
Another option might be to reuse the 15 Amp inlet opening for a cable TV or telephone inlet, even if it's a dummy.
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07-25-2015, 02:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 23' FB Flying Cloud
Mill Valley
, Left Coast
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 61
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Actually the person who had the snarkey answer is quite wrong.
Look up NEMA L15R , it's a 15 Amp twist lock receptacle. I have installed hundreds... but... they are not a common configuration.
J.B.
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07-25-2015, 03:28 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 23' FB Flying Cloud
Mill Valley
, Left Coast
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 61
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L5-15R sorry!
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07-25-2015, 11:10 PM
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Slowpoke
2012 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 255
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbxx
Actually the person who had the snarkey answer is quite wrong.
Look up NEMA L15R , it's a 15 Amp twist lock receptacle. I have installed hundreds... but... they are not a common configuration.
J.B.
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Captain Snark here, sure am sorry if I chafed some thin skin. Sheesh. It's helpful to use the right terms when asking a question, that's just a fact, I tried to impart the correct terminology. And you'll notice that I didn't say a 15A twistlock didn't exist - of course they do - but they are, as you admit, rare in the RV and marine markets. What I said was I've never seen one in my three decades of marine service and surveying.
To the original poster, I meant no offense, just trying to understand what you're asking, since the terminology you used raised questions.
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07-26-2015, 09:03 AM
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Richard
2006 30' Classic S/O
Merced
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 79
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You should give serious consideration to the RV Smart Plug. Check it out at SmartPlug Systems - Shore Power Products and Accessories. PS I am an end user only. I don't sell this stuff so this in not an advertisement for Smart Plug. Just advice from someone who has changed a few burned out twist lock power cord connectors. Sorry to say Airstream has not switched to Smart Plug.
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