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02-25-2017, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
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Honda 2000 standard or companion
I started looking at a generator and am close to ordering, but can not identify the type of 30 amp receptacle on the companion. It does not look like the one required to mate to a standard 30 amp RV male plug.
Would appreciate a response from anyone with a companion. Can you plug your 30 amp RV cable directly into the companion 30 amp plug?
It is my understanding that the 2000 will produce less than 20 amps, so the standard 20 amp receptacle on the standard 2000 is not a problem for normal use. Is that correct?
Looking to purchase one of the LPG Hondas. Has anyone had a problem with GenConnex, their 3 year warranty, or their LPG conversion?
Anyone found a discount for a GenConnex Honda?
How difficult is it to exchange the components required for running the LPG Honda at above 5000 feet?
Your help is appreciated. Also appreciate the info posted on all the other generator threads. You have been most helpful in my research. Pat
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02-25-2017, 05:10 PM
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Rivet Master
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The ones I looked at were standard 30amp plug receptacles.
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02-25-2017, 05:46 PM
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You buy an adapter plug to fit the RV plug to the companion. If you are running mostly at altitude the selling dealer can swap out the jets, however with propane, you can adjust the richness for whatever altitude you're at.
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02-25-2017, 06:15 PM
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Rivet Master
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So, I got two answers 1) it's a standard receptacle. 2) it requires an adapter. I think the answer is that you need an adapter to connect a standard 30 amp RV plug (two blades and a ground probe).
Let's ask this question another way. Is there any reason to purchase a companion if you do not want to run paired generators? I thought the 30 amp plug would be an advantage. Not so sure now.
Altitude - LPG can be adjusted - thank you.
Appreciate the help. Pat
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02-25-2017, 06:22 PM
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Rivet Master
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I have had a regular Honda Generator for a long time. I use the adapter and have never had an issue with it. I do not plan to buy a companion just to run my AC. This system works for me and I think it will work for you too.
I say get the generator. If you change you mind later you can always get the companion, hook the two together and you will be good to do.
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02-25-2017, 06:23 PM
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My reason for purchasing the Companion was that doing so eliminated the need for a 20-30 amp dog-bone adapter. I use the GenConnex 30Amp ground-to-neutral grounding camper adapter plug that came with their "Package RV 2." I needed a ground-to-neutral adapter on the generator anyway to avoid popping the GFCI outlets in the trailer, so this made everything easy.
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02-25-2017, 06:38 PM
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I've been trying to figure this out as well. My understanding thus far is that the 2000 paired with the companion produces around 26.6 amps, thus the 30 amp outlet on the companion. Without the two generators paired,there is no reason for the 30 amp plug since it's only 13.3 amps anyway. You use an adapter dongle with the normal plug and get whatever power it has to run some things in the trailer.
I wondered (probably like you) if having only the companion simplifies things by eliminating the need for the adapter to the trailer power cable, but I guess you give up some other features of the regular 2000 which make it more versatile? 12V battery charging section and a second 120V regular outlet? Maybe someone can explain for sure why else, if you're only getting one, it makes more sense to get the regular 2000 vs the companion.
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02-25-2017, 06:43 PM
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02-25-2017, 06:44 PM
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Sorry if this picture is up twice. This picture seems to show the RV plug directly in the companion.
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02-25-2017, 06:45 PM
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02-25-2017, 06:46 PM
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This shows the 2000 companion with one 20A plug and one 26.6A plug. Although both will only have 13.3 A without the other generator.
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02-25-2017, 06:47 PM
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02-25-2017, 06:50 PM
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This shows the regular Honda 2000. Note two 'regular' plugs (again, only 13.3 A without the companion) plus the DC 12V 8A battery charging section. Maybe this has more versatility? You could find other uses around the house and yard when not RVing?
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02-25-2017, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master
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I believe the companion has a twist lock 30 amp receptacle not an RV type receptacle. Therefor the RV will not plug directly into the generators receptacle.
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02-25-2017, 07:32 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
My reason for purchasing the Companion was that doing so eliminated the need for a 20-30 amp dog-bone adapter. I use the GenConnex 30Amp ground-to-neutral grounding camper adapter plug that came with their "Package RV 2." I needed a ground-to-neutral adapter on the generator anyway to avoid popping the GFCI outlets in the trailer, so this made everything easy.
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From what the OP said, I was assuming that he was not planning on linking two Hondas together. If that is the case I will stand with my original statement. Get the regular generator which should cost you less and get an adapter and you will be good to go.
Rocinate makes two points in the above post. First, he chose a companion to avoid the need to use an adapter. Wow, I think the difference in price would allow you to buy a number of adapters. Secondly, he speaks of a grounding issue. Again, I have used a basic Honda with an adapter and have never had a problem with GFCIs popping. Perhaps the newer trailers are more sensitive to these issues. I really don't know. My 2006 runs fine with my set up.
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02-25-2017, 08:14 PM
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Starting to sink in, finally. The 30 amp receptacle on the companion is a three pole twist lock and not the two blade plus a post plug that is on my 30 amp RV power cable. I think there are electrical code designations for these plugs. Guess I should have dug them out and been more specific with the question.
Thank you for the pictures and interpretation. Pat
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02-25-2017, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aftermath
Rocinate makes two points in the above post. First, he chose a companion to avoid the need to use an adapter. Wow, I think the difference in price would allow you to buy a number of adapters. Secondly, he speaks of a grounding issue. Again, I have used a basic Honda with an adapter and have never had a problem with GFCIs popping. Perhaps the newer trailers are more sensitive to these issues. I really don't know. My 2006 runs fine with my set up.
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Just a thought: I don't have to be wrong for you to be right. We can each spend our money the way we choose to spend it.
There is plenty of literature on GFCI issues in RVs when running on a generator and how neutral bonding can eliminate them. If your RV doesn't need it, that's great for you, glad it works.
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02-25-2017, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
Starting to sink in, finally. The 30 amp receptacle on the companion is a three pole twist lock and not the two blade plus a post plug that is on my 30 amp RV power cable.
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Hi Pat: Right you are. We recently purchased a Honda 2000 Companion with the GenConneX propane system and our OEM AS power cord does not connect without an adapter. If you go this route, buy the package with the ground to neutral adapter and you are good to go
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02-26-2017, 12:21 PM
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Hot minr from GenConnex, is great people there and great warranty.
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02-26-2017, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PKI
I started looking at a generator and am close to ordering, but can not identify the type of 30 amp receptacle on the companion. It does not look like the one required to mate to a standard 30 amp RV male plug.
Would appreciate a response from anyone with a companion. Can you plug your 30 amp RV cable directly into the companion 30 amp plug?
It is my understanding that the 2000 will produce less than 20 amps, so the standard 20 amp receptacle on the standard 2000 is not a problem for normal use. Is that correct?
Looking to purchase one of the LPG Hondas. Has anyone had a problem with GenConnex, their 3 year warranty, or their LPG conversion?
Anyone found a discount for a GenConnex Honda?
How difficult is it to exchange the components required for running the LPG Honda at above 5000 feet?
Your help is appreciated. Also appreciate the info posted on all the other generator threads. You have been most helpful in my research. Pat
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Sounds like an involved Honda affair.
I have a Champion 3100W Inverter Generator. It came wit a 30 AMP RV receptacle. All I needed was a 30 Amp to 50 Am converter plug to plug in my 50 AMP cable directly into the Generator. I installed the high altitude jets myself in less than 30 minutes. This generator runs both AC units if that is the only load. With one AC unit running we can use all appliances we choose.
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