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Old 05-22-2020, 04:24 PM   #21
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We have a Champion, I bought ramps that work great

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7' Adjustable Wheelchair Telescoping Track Ramps
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Old 05-22-2020, 07:21 PM   #22
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Generator for everything except AC

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Perfect. Load the generator into the truck bed then hitch up and go! Ditto into the Airstream door. The Champion 3400 dual fuel inverter has a nice set of wheels already but I need to check dimensions in case they might drag...
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Old 05-23-2020, 02:30 AM   #23
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. . . for a Bambi 20-22’ . . .
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. . . But if in National Forest might be nice to have a smaller unit to run most everything except AC. So, do you have any advice on the size to handle all except AC? Thanks, Stephen
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We got our Yamaha 1000 watt unit for just this purpose. Converted to propane, to run off the low-pressure port, it charges our FC20 OEM batteries and powers the fridge just fine.
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PS -- We don't have a microwave, so the 1000 watt unit works fine for us. If you also want to run a M/W, a propane-fired Honda 2200, with an Easy Start modified A/C, would be a great route to take IMO. For a 20-22' Bambi -- a great tool for the job -- anything larger is overkill IMO.

Easy to load and safe to store in the tow vehicle, or even in the trailer. Also much quieter than the larger units.

KISS . . .

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Old 05-23-2020, 10:25 AM   #24
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Lots of interesting replies that I will try to digest so that I clearly understand my needs and only need to make 1 purchase. But when I see so folks use gas, some propane, so combined units things start to get more confusing. I appreciate there are advocates on all sides. Make life interesting.

But a follow up question is: If using propane bottle to run a 2200 watt unit versus 35 watt unit, about how many hours use do you get on each. And I appreciate that might depend on how much you tax the unit. So I am just looking for averages.
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Old 05-23-2020, 03:19 PM   #25
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I just bought a Northern Tool bed mounted lift crane. It looks the same as Harbor Freight's crane. I got the idea from on old salt, the former Chief, of the Hard Hat Divers in the Navy. He was 94 at the time we visited in the Terra Port at the Airstrem Factory, but he could lift anything in and out of his pickup. I'm adding it to the old man's "don't leave home without it" list. I just bought a Yamaha EF6300 the I will leave in my pickup. My Tri-fuel EF3600iesb is listed in the forums classified.
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Old 05-23-2020, 07:09 PM   #26
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I’m partial to dual fuel inverter generators. Champion has two very good models:

Model #100263
59 dBA is perfect for RVs, tailgating, your next project or backup power for your home, featuring 3400 starting watts and 3100 running watts with up to 7.5 hours run time on gasoline. L 25.1” W 17.3” H 18.3” Weight 95.7 Lb.

Model #100402
53 dBA from 23 feet is perfect for camping, tailgating or to backup a few home essentials, featuring 2000 starting watts, 1600 running watts and up to 11 hours run time.
L20.5” W12.6” H16.9” Weight 47.6 Lb.

I own both and they are excellent. I purchased the 263 model before the 402 came out. If I were to do today I would buy two of the 402 models but certainly not unhappy with the bigger one. I like the electric start on it. Receptacles on the generator are not a big issue as conversion can be easily made with cords and plugs. The smaller 402 is very easy to handle but you do have to pull a rope to start (easy pull). I never use gas (smells, volatile, goes stale) but is a good backup alternative to propane. Propane fuel has less punch so actual available watts is less. Look at the load of what you will connect and as a general rule try to not load the generator more than 80% of its rating. I like the inverter because of the low THD (total harmonic distortion). The cleaner sine wave is much nicer to your electronics. Capacitors on the AC will soften the startup load. Honda is excellent but Champion is also excellent with a good price and good customer service.
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Last summer, while in Minnesota, needed to use Champion 3400 dual fuel to run AC. Ran on propane (it does produce less watts than gas fired) and ran for 16+ hours on eco mode using 30 lb. tank. Had 20lb. tank to use as "switch over" tank while getting 30 lb. tank filled. I now have 2 additional 40lb. tanks that I will use. I was able to run M/W, if needed, and certainly run TV if wanted. Now have Easy Start, so should be able to run all three, if desired. It is CARB compliant so can use while in National Forest, etc. Will only use propane and have not run into problem findng propane when needed, but have extra capacity with larger tanks to go longer.
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Last summer, while in Minnesota, needed to use Champion 3400 dual fuel to run AC. Ran on propane (it does produce less watts than gas fired) and ran for 16+ hours on eco mode using 30 lb. tank. Had 20lb. tank to use as "switch over" tank while getting 30 lb. tank filled. I now have 2 additional 40lb. tanks that I will use. I was able to run M/W, if needed, and certainly run TV if wanted. Now have Easy Start, so should be able to run all three, if desired. It is CARB compliant so can use while in National Forest, etc. Will only use propane and have not run into problem findng propane when needed, but have extra capacity with larger tanks to go longer.
Thanks Pastor, couple follow on questions for newcomer me. I assume the M in M/W is microwave. What is the W? Does it mean water pump? So you were camping in an area where you could drive to a place to refill a propane tank, right? Few of places I am thinking about first getting out too are the Upper Green River in Wyoming that is a bit aways from Pinedale. So travelling back and forth to get propane not in the works. Still I need to tabulate the various fuels, versus output/use, versus run times folks are reporting so I know how to manage the resource. Final, you are saying that you carry a 30lb, a 20lb and 2 40lb propane bottles, right? It don’t think I will go that far.
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The consumption of gas or propane should not, in my opinion, be a significant factor here. Unless you are boondocking WAY out in the boonies, you can re-fuel more or less at will, and will have enough lead time to do so. A 20-22' Bambi will typically have 2 30-lb. propane tanks. Unless you are camping in very cold weather, each tank should last at least a week IMO [with moderate small generator use], or even a month depending on use.

Mainly you want to choose a generator/inverter which suits your needs, in total watts of output. The major dividing line for you [per your OP] is whether you want to run the air conditioner or not. Plus your bad back is a definite weight consideration.

Propane-fired is much more convenient IMO. [See Posts #3 and #23]

It is very easy to over-think all of this -- to try to anticipate all possibilities -- but that can become its own trap IMO. Trust yourself that you can make it all work out!



Good luck,

Peter

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The consumption of gas or propane should not, in my opinion, be a significant factor here. Unless you are boondocking WAY out in the boonies, you can re-fuel more or less at will, and will have enough lead time to do so. A 20-22' Bambi will typically have 2 30-lb. propane tanks. Unless you are camping in very cold weather, each tank should last at least a week IMO [with moderate small generator use], or even a month depending on use.

Mainly you want to choose a generator/inverter which suits your needs, in total watts of output. The major dividing line for you [per your OP] is whether you want to run the air conditioner or not. Plus your bad back is a definite weight consideration.

Propane-fired is much more convenient IMO. [See Posts #3 and #23]

It is very easy to over-think all of this -- to try to anticipate all possibilities -- but that can become its own trap IMO. Trust yourself that you can make it all work out!



Good luck,

Peter

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https://www.airforums.com/forums/f13...ist-28713.html
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f48...ms-156815.html

BTW, Bambi now has 2 20lb tanks. I suppose I can multiple your estimated time spans by .66?
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. . . if you want to . . .



Still in OveThink mode IMO.



Get a trailer and go camping!

Happy trails,

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