Fantastic Fan electric question

[Rjpuckett]

I have an International 16' 2008 CCD. I just replaced the fan but can't seem to get power to it. It has a white and black wire. I have checked fuses and breakers. The fan works when I hook it up directly to the 12 volt battery.

Can someone suggest how I can figure out why the wires have no power?

[Mikem1961]

Does your fan have a thermostat on a wall that can control it? If so the power may be coming thru the thermostat and if it's not at the temperature it needs to turn on then it won't have power.

[Rjpuckett]

The thermostat is on the fan but turning it to all red or all blue does not affect the results. It does when I have it hooked directly to the battery.


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[mayco]

Do you mean that the wires in the ceiling have no power?

[Rjpuckett]

Yes, coming from the ceiling above the fan. These are the same wires I disconnected from the old fan.


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[mayco]

Hmmmmmm, thats puzzling. Sure sounds like a fuse blew but you checked that already. My next step would be to pull the fuse for that circuit and replace it even if it looks like its good. I assume that you tested the wires with a meter already.

[Rjpuckett]

I checked the fuses and thought about replacing it anyway but the stove lights are on the same circuit and the fan and the lights work.

Anyone know where those two wires connect in the system. If I knew that I can trace them backwards.


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[Zil]

If the old fan worked, then no power at the feed wires can only be two things. Blown fuse or another switch between fuse and fan. Kind-a like a wall thermostat or on/off switch. Are you using the right wires?

[airdreamers]

Question is, was there power at those wires that the FF was connected to when you disconnected them to replace the fan! If so one of the wires probably close to the FF was pulled slightly and disconnected (my guess). Case in point that happen to me replacing the running lights at the upper rear of my Airstream. Original connection pulled out. Try to trace the wires back to ? ceiling light or 12 volt outlet.

Good luck, better then a plumbing leak!

[Rjpuckett]

I don't know enough about electrical connections to not be dangerous. I also hate plumbing.

Never the less, based upon you guys suggesting things, I started tracing the wires in the ceiling and about 18 " up the wires they were crimped to a red and white wire. I cut at that point and connected my fan black and white wires and the fan is a working!!!

Thanks for the help!



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[airdreamers]

Good for you! As a friend of mine used to say. "One in a row, way to go!"

[Phoenix]

In our 19-foot Bambi, both FantasticFans are connected to the wires running to the ceiling light fixtures. Not sure if your 16-foot is the same. However, if it is, you might want to try turning on the WALL SWITCH for the ceiling light. If this works, and you don't want the light ON, turn the light OFF using the switch on the lighting fixture.

[Splitrock]

The Fantastic fan lid needs to be open in order for the fan motor to run.

[Al and Missy]

Phoenix, that's how my Safari is wired. Makes no sense to me. They saved $0.25 on a wire to run 12V direct to the fan. I am forever wondering why the fan won't work and then I remember. I like to be able to turn on the light when entering the trailer, so if I want that to work I have to use the switch on the wall exclusively. If I use it in the daytime to turn the light off, then the fan won't work. All this complexity to save $0.25.

Just sayin.....

Al

[Phoenix]

Al and Missy, I agree. However, adding the dedicated wires after the fact is not worth the trouble. One of our FantasticFans was installed by the dealer, and I installed the other one.

There is one advantage. We always air out our Bambi when we first arrive, to purge any carbon monoxide that has accumulated from towing.

Before we pull out of a campground, we close the FantasticFan lid (which turns it off) and turn the wall-mounted switch that controls the overhead light and FantasticFan to OFF. Then, we pre-set the fan to ON/OPEN, HIGH and OUT.

Then when we arrive, before entering our Bambi, we latch the door open, flip the wall switch to ON and let the FantasticFan run for a few minutes while we chock the wheels, and hook up the shore power cord and hoses. When we finally enter our Airstream, all of the exhaust fumes are gone.

[wigwag]

I'd like to grab on to the end of this thread in the hope that somebody can help me out with a similar problem in my 64 Overlander. I've had an electrician come and try to figure out why none of these things are working: new FanTastic fan in bath, old fan in kitchen ceiling and the outside light. Fuses are all good... he figured maybe there was a damaged wire SOMEWHERE but how do we find it without tearing things apart?
But I guess I should have asked first... do these three things all run on the same wire?
How do you go about finding the bad bit???

[Jessi64]

Have any of you upgraded your fan? Im getting the upgrade kit that will take mine from a 1200 to the 3350. The info I read seems like I only need to replace the bottom half (inside the trailer) and leave everything else alone. Any pointers would be helpful.

[lsbrodsky]

I upgraded both fans, one with the reversing kit, the other with the many-speed remote control kit. The instructions were good and clear, all work was from below. No additional parts were required. I cannot think of any necessary tips except to study the instructions.
Larry