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Old 05-01-2018, 12:29 PM   #1
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With no appliance components powered , and the Honda 2000 up and running , the two GFI protected outlets do not work . The non GFI outlets do work normally
I do not pretend to know anything about electrical systems and functions , so , am I getting what I should get in this configuration?
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Old 05-01-2018, 01:34 PM   #2
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No, this is not normal. Do they work on shore power? Are they tripped? Are the individual outlets GFCIs or are they fed by a GFCI breaker?

I've not run into this before, but the GFCI may need to see neutral connected to ground to work properly. Some surge protectors do. You can easily test this by making a neutral to ground short. Go to a hardware or big box store and purchase a three-prong standard plug. Take off the cover and connect a wire between the round ground pin and the neutral flat blade, which is the larger of the two blades and is typically silver or has a silver screw in it. The small blade is the hot line. Do not connect anything to this. Replace the cover. Plug this homemade adapter into the other socket on your generator and see if that makes a difference.

If so, good. If not, I don't have a clue.

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GFCI's do not need to be grounded to function properly.
They measure the current on the hot leg and neutral. A very small difference will trip the breaker.
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Al & Missy are correct. Bonded ground. It doesn't have to be plugged into the GenSet, any outlet will do. We usually plug ours into the external (covered) outlet.
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All of my outlets work just fine when I am running my Honda Generator. I would be careful if you plan to hook up some kind of bonded ground unless you are an electrician and know what you are doing. I have a 2006 25FB and a couple of years ago none of my GFCI outlets worked. I found that the GFCI circuit breaker was not working. Replaced that and all was good again.

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GROUND! The Airstream and the generator.
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As usual, this is nuts.
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:58 AM   #8
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Try this:
http://rvtravel.com/how-generator-ne...r-an-rv-works/

"So the bottom line is this. If you don’t have an EMS in your RV, then you can use either a bonded or non-bonded neutral generator. If you DO have an EMS installed, then you’ll want to use a bonded neutral generator. And the easiest way to neutral bond something like a Honda generator is using the Generator Neutral Bonding plug available from Progressive Industries, or you can wire it yourself from my articles on No~Shock~Zone."

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http://noshockzone.org/generator-gro...utral-bonding/

"Now I discussed this very point with Honda engineering , and they confirmed that their inverter generators have floated Neutrals and simply say that you should follow all local electrical codes for bonding-grounding. So your EU3000 isn’t providing the Ground-Neutral Bond that your RV requires to think it’s getting properly grounded power, while your Coleman 5000 has a Ground-Neutral bond already so it operates your RV properly. Seems crazy, but that appears to be the scenario. It’s pretty simple to wire a special “Ground-Neutral Bond” jumper cable for your Honda or Yamaha generator which will allow you to power your RV through its voltage protection device. You can obtain or make a dummy 15 or 20 amp “Edison” plug with the Neutral (white) and Ground (green) screws jump together with a piece of 12 or 14 gauge wire (see photos below). This G-N jumper plug can be plugged into one of the generator’s unused 20-amp outlets, and the entire generator’s electrical system will be N-G bonded. You can then use the other 20-amp Edison outlet or the 30-amp outlet to power the RV.
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