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03-23-2007, 04:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Murfreesboro
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Why the friction?
I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
Mike
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03-23-2007, 04:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Why not both?
Mike,
We enjoy the advantages of both. In Calif. there is a very strong Forum camping group. We have big Rallies and Notreallyarallyrallies where groups of us will go camp and have a great time together.
We also camp with the WBCCI of various Units and will be joining the Four Corners Unit in going to a balloon rally.
There are folks who camp with the WBCCI or the Forums but really why limit yourself?
Some folks are less than happy with the WBCCI International but most folks seem very happy with their local Units. So many pretty much ignore the International and have a lot of fun with the friends they have found in the Units.
You can have fun with both so don't limit yourself.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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03-23-2007, 04:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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hear hear
There are a ton of different reasons why people may love or hate the WBCC, and you'll find those reasons if you do a little searching on the forums and in other places on the web. However, you won't know whether you're happy in the club until you check out the experience for yourself. You may find you're happy with it, or not. The possibilities are so varied and so many that there's no doubt a place for you out there to rally, camp and have fun the way you like to.
California forum ralliers are the best, however.
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"Let's look Death in the face and say, 'Whatever man.'"
~ Hurley
ingrid
1967 24' Tradewind #19104 ~ Forums #4449
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03-23-2007, 04:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
1961 26' Overlander
1982 34' Limited
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Why the friction?
There are a lot of Airstreamers and we each have our opinions.
I think almost all of us really admire Wally and the intrepid caravans that he lead.
The current WBCCI seems to have departed from this adventurous spirit. They like meetings, dress codes, flag etiquette, etc. This is OK for some.
Others, like me have chosen to start a new unit, the Four Corners Unit with the notion of just having fun camping. I think there is no need for friction. Each of us should be free to do our own things.
Pick a unit that suits you.
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Originally Posted by Hammer
I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
Mike
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Airstream25
KE5CKG on 2 meters
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03-23-2007, 05:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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Murfreesboro
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Thank you for the info. I have been reading posts here for a month, but I feel like I've only scratched the surface.
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03-23-2007, 07:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2003 22' International CCD
Whittier
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 358
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Go Camping
Mike----The discussions you see here on this forum are mostly about dissatisification with the top leaders of the club. These leaders focus most of their time on the big annual rally which they plan and control. It moves around the US and is usually a long drive for most who attend. A small percentage of the membership attends this annual summer event. Approx 1 in 7 or so.
The typical camping trips in our local areas are planned and organized by local folks. Look up the local group (unit) nearest you. Check them out. Go camping with them. If you like one of these groups, then you can make an informed choice to join the WBCCI and the local unit or not.
Enjoy the camping experiences and the new friends you will make and don't worry about the rest of it.
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03-23-2007, 07:50 PM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,804
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Murphy's law
Just when I wasn't sure whether or not to renew my never-used WBCCI membership,I met the most delightful bunch of folks at a stopover at 29Palms, CA. The San Diego unit ( www.airstreamsandiego.com) had one of their monthly rallies there, invited me to happy hour, fed me, treated me like one of theirs, and then actually stayed in touch after their rally was over.
Now what?
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03-23-2007, 08:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Great Lake State
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airstream25
There are a lot of Airstreamers and we each have our opinions.
I think almost all of us really admire Wally and the intrepid caravans that he lead.
The current WBCCI seems to have departed from this adventurous spirit. They like meetings, dress codes, flag etiquette, etc. This is OK for some.
Others, like me have chosen to start a new unit, the Four Corners Unit with the notion of just having fun camping. I think there is no need for friction. Each of us should be free to do our own things.
Pick a unit that suits you.
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What is there dress code, flag etiquette, and etc, can you list there bylaws.....
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03-23-2007, 08:19 PM
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Certifiable
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Godfather III
Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
Just when I wasn't sure whether or not to renew my never-used WBCCI membership,I met the most delightful bunch of folks at a stopover at 29Palms, CA. The San Diego unit ( www.airstreamsandiego.com) had one of their monthly rallies there, invited me to happy hour, fed me, treated me like one of theirs, and then actually stayed in touch after their rally was over.
Now what?
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Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in!
You know what to do! Have fun! Follow your heart.
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03-23-2007, 08:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uwe
Just when I wasn't sure whether or not to renew my never-used WBCCI membership,I met the most delightful bunch of folks at a stopover at 29Palms, CA. The San Diego unit ( www.airstreamsandiego.com) had one of their monthly rallies there, invited me to happy hour, fed me, treated me like one of theirs, and then actually stayed in touch after their rally was over.
Now what?
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"Now what?" Go man go! Invite the rest of us too.
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I'd rather be boon docking in the desert.
WBCCI 3344 FCU
AIR# 13896
CA 4
Yes, we have courtesy parking for you. About an hour North of Los Angeles.
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03-23-2007, 08:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 24
Tempe
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 326
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newbie too
I'll plead ignorance too regarding the apparent contriversies over membership and rules. Seems to me that WBCCI and the Forums are like eating family style at a Chinese restaurant... take what you like and leave the rest for others. Usually, everyone leaves with a full stomach.
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Donna & Mike
Cowboy up! or go sit in the truck
Charter Member Four Corners Unit
WBCCI #2417
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03-23-2007, 09:12 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
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We like both the WBCCI and the Forums and belong to both. We are not real big "joiners". We kinda prefer that Forums Rallies. We plan to remain members of both.
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WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with ProPride
2020 Silverado 2500 (Vivian)
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03-23-2007, 11:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
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Definate preferences....
Hello all -
Been to both WBCCI and Forums rallies. Have a DEFINATE preference... but then that is MY preference.... you need to find yours.
Try everything, then choose what you like.
Axel
SilverToy
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03-24-2007, 08:18 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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Murfreesboro
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From what I've read it seems fair to say the WBCCI is the more formal group group compared to the Forum group. Since I'm a refugee from a bar-b-que pit, I think I'll try the forum group first. I really appreciate the replies to help a new person!
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03-24-2007, 08:58 AM
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Groucho wore a tux
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
From what I've read it seems fair to say the WBCCI is the more formal group group compared to the Forum group. Since I'm a refugee from a bar-b-que pit, I think I'll try the forum group first. I really appreciate the replies to help a new person!
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Well, I've been a starin' at yer post for sometime now. I can see where your comin' from. I hear ya. But I keep gettin' stuck on that word "formal."
In my experience, some of the folks in some of the local units around where I live are seriously deranged. They need help. Their idea of "formal" is wearing blue berets to a jammie party. They have rallys dedicated to pumpkin carving and ghost stories. Their campfires are all inclusive, big and full of song. Brush up on your Grateful Dead, Neil Young, Beatles, Dylan, James Taylor and get your guitar, harmonica and mandolin tuned. Don't worry about your singin' voice: volume and enthusiasm is all that counts.
Do yourself a favor though. Stop reading all this drivel and get out there camping! Check 'em all out and make up your mind that way. I happen to enjoy boondocking alone, camping with a friend, camping with two, camping with 25, camping with 125. They are all different and I find that variety is the spice of life.
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03-24-2007, 09:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Altoona
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
Mike
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Hammer - I'm kinda in the same situation as you. The WBCC has always had a noise in the air reputation with SOB's and many of the threads on the subject are negative to the WBCC. I find I like the forum group and have attended forum rallies that were, in my opinion, top notch. My first rally with mostly WBCC folks will be the Balloon fest in Albuquerque.
Huge rallies are not my thing but even these have good stuff like vendor displays and tech demos so I just don't know
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03-24-2007, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer
I'm a new member and don't wish to start an arguement for sure. From reading posts it seems some folks really like the WBCC and others prefer a group from this forum? Would some of you please help me understand what's going on. I've always said I wouldn't join a club that would have me as a member! Thanks for your help,
Mike
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I'm not a WBCCI member and have read many comments over the last 5-6 years about the organization. Since I wanted to be free to choose any activities I wanted to partake in and not be saddled with formalities, I jumped on the chance to meet a group in GA. for a mini rally of sorts. I believe this would have been the second with some of the members here. I thoroughly enjoyed meeting everyone and had a great time. I've been to three more of these since then, only missing one because of prior committments.
Each informal rally gets larger with more trailers, mohos and participants. There is fun for everyone, young and older, and the best part is that no one is forced to do anything! You choose to be involved in whatever tickles your fancy. This even makes you want to volunteer to help set up for some of the activities the people come up with. It's amazing. For instance, for the Hiawassee, GA. trip in April, one activity centers on tips for barbequing a 100 lb. pig. I love to barbeque at the house so I'm signed up for that. I'm hoping to learn something. One rally had a demonstration on brake replacement but I missed it.
I would hazzard to guess that if there was a local WBCCI unit which had activities and was informal then I would join. If the opportunity presents itself then I will keep an open mind and consider it. Until then, I'm having the time of my life with the forum rallys.
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03-24-2007, 11:08 AM
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GStephens
1982 31' Limited
1953 25' Cruiser
Hamilton
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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First thought, davidz71, you attended the Texas State Vintage rally which was a WBCCI event with perhaps 10% forums members in attendance. It was planned, scheduled and executed entirely by WBCCI unit members with the forums members attending as our guests. Would you please care to comment as to what you thought about that rally, whether or not you enjoyed yourself, would you encourage other forums members to attend such a rally and what you would change for next year, if anything?
Second thought, I'd also encourage Hammer to attend both types of activities. The only edge I see the WBCCI as having is only valuable if you value that quality. The asset that attracts me to WBCCI is the fact that I get to more intimately know the people I am attending a rally with at a Unit function because for the most part the same people show up time and again. Why is that important, well I was recently diagnosed for about two months with cancer. The doctors later determined I didn't have it, but during those two months it wouldn't be possible to replicate all the calls, letters, emails, visits and prayers that were sent my way. I received far, far more support from my unit's members than from my church of 38 years. You can't understand it until it happens to you what that meant, but at a time like that when your whole world is turned upside down, such support means everything to some of us. At forum rallies, those attending may or may not ever be seen again. You just don't get the chance to estalish quite the sense of family though for some that might be a good thing. Its whatever is your cup of tea. The main thing is to get out in your Airstream and have fun.
GStephens
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03-24-2007, 11:22 AM
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Rivet Master
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Ajo
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We stumbled into a Airstream rally w/our 310 years ago, all were sitting in
their Zip Dee chairs wearing their berets. They all waved until someone
noticed we had no numbers! All waves were withdrawn & eyes directed to
the ant activity.
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03-24-2007, 12:38 PM
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GStephens
1982 31' Limited
1953 25' Cruiser
Hamilton
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 563
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Response to Mike Leary. Well, I've never been to a International Rally, maybe they do such things, but I've never ever seen anyone sitting around at happy hour wearing their berets at any WBCCI function I've ever attended. NO ONE in our unit EVER wears a beret at anything except the new officers when they are installed each year out of respect for Wally Byam. That one day or night for an hur or two is all that even they wear them. That's it. At a regional rally, you'll see the officers wear berets at certain events such as opening and closing ceremonies, but again, no one else wears them at all. I am so sorry such a thing happened to you. I'm sure that there are differences between people from unit to unit and from one geographic area to another, but don't think for a moment that just because something is done a certain way one place that it is possible to infer that is the way it is everywhere.
GStephens
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