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Old 10-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #1
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New and wondering what I bought??

Hi, my name is Tim and I'm new here and have been the proud owner of an Airstream for a week now. I thought I had bought a 1968 16' Airstream Safari, but that wasn't a choice on the list when I signed up here. The bad part is that I am going to have to get a builders title for it as it did not come with the original title. Hence the reason I'm not sure what it is. Are there any resources that I can look up the serial number and see what I have??
The old dude I bought it from had previously gutted it and attempted to make new cabinets, but his craftmanship was seriously lacking. So right now I have it gutted again and will be remaking it to be a cozy little camper to take on our vacations to Colorado. (we own 5 acres out there and it has a well and electric too, can you say RV site?? )
By the way, we live in SW Missouri.
That's the scoop for now, can't wait to get into the forums.
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:29 AM   #2
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I dont know to much about it but somebody on here can help I am sure if you have any pics post them but usually it can be done with the vin number in that number it will tell you date location and type or at least mine did ....SAM
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Old 10-14-2007, 07:42 AM   #3
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New and wondering what I bought??

Hi Tim,

First of all.....CONGRATULATIONS on the purchase of Your Airstream! They sure are a lot of fun. I live in Colorado too and have a 1966 Safari...so near the age of Yours.

Please post the VIN/Serial number and someone will be able to help you decipher it. They are not difficult to decode.

Also.....got any pics of the new purchase?

While You have it gutted, check the floors etc.....this is a good time to fix things that You normally can't see.

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Old 10-14-2007, 07:51 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies guys, I'll get that vin# up asap.
I'll also get some pics up today too.
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:22 AM   #5
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Old 10-14-2007, 08:34 AM   #6
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Hi Tim! If it's a short 1968 model, it's most likely a Caravel if it's 17' bumper to hitch... or if the cabin alone is about 16' it's most likely a Globetrotter 20'.

This was the model lineup for 1968:

YEAR NAME LENGTH

1968 CARAVEL 17
1968 GLOBE TROTTER 20
1968 SAFARI 22 TWIN
1968 SAFARI 22 DOUBLE
1968 TRADE WIND 24 TWIN
1968 TRADE WIND 24 DOUBLE
1968 OVERLANDER 26 TWIN
1968 OVERLANDER 26 DOUBLE
1968 AMBASSADOR 28 TWIN
1968 AMBASSADOR 28 DOUBLE
1968 SOVEREIGN 30 TWIN
1968 SOVEREIGN 30 DOUBLE

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Old 10-14-2007, 09:02 AM   #7
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Okay here's what I've got so far:
On the Airstream tag on the passenger side is this number: 223t264
It only has a single axle.
Measurements from the rear of bumper to front of body is almost 20'.
And from rear of bumper to front of tongue is almost 23'.
Will that help determine what I have??
Oh and it does have the Safari emblem above the Airstream plate on the side.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:04 AM   #8
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That decodes to an Ohio built 22 foot 1963 Safari with twin beds.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:11 AM   #9
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Is there anything else on that plate in front of the numbers? Maybe an I or O?
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:14 AM   #10
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Sweet!!!!! Now I know what I have. Thanks for the link very much.
It is the camper in the 1963 Safari 2 file......exactly.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:41 AM   #11
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Welcome and congrats on the '63'. Enjoy the rebuild, should be a good winter project.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:22 AM   #12
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Hi Tim -- Welcome to the Forums!

You'll have to be careful about keeping your cabinet rebuild fairly light. It might pay to get to a rally to see a similar era Airstream. There was one in the Branson area this weekend -- too bad.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:36 AM   #13
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It'll be a great winter project.
Anybody have any idea what the dry weight of it is??
It should be lighter since I took the antique A/C unit off the roof yesterday.
I was glad the roof was not permanently sagged from it.
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Anybody have any idea what the dry weight of it is??

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Old 10-14-2007, 10:56 AM   #15
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3305 lbs
yikes.............I guess I'm gonna have to find a new tow vehicle.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:35 AM   #16
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Hi Tim,

The chart I have shows the dry weight at 3305 lbs with a tongue weight of 410 lbs and a length, tongue to bumper of 19.5 feet.

Hope this helps!

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Old 10-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #17
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By the way........am I right in assuming that my trailer has brakes???
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By the way........am I right in assuming that my trailer has brakes???
It is fairly straightforward to figure out the brake system. First point will be the state of your umbilical and whether it has been updated to be compatible with modern 7-pin electrical connectors on tow vehicles. One wire is given to the brake function.

You will need a brake controller in your tow vehicle. Once you have that and your umbilical connection done right, you can place a magnetic compass near the axle on the inside of each brake assembly -- have somebody depress the brake pedal. You should see some swing of the needle from activation of the magnets.

All states require functioning breakaway brakes on any trailer over 1500-2000 pounds. New breakaway switches are widely available but most importantly you will need a functioning battery onboard to make this happen. Learn about the ancient 'Univolt' and much better voltage convertors available today. BTW -- don't test a breakaway while the umbilical is plugged into the tow vehicle -- that tends to fry brake controllers, especially the Tekonsha Prodigy.
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Sweet!!!!! Now I know what I have. Thanks for the link very much.
It is the camper in the 1963 Safari 2 file......exactly.
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:03 PM   #20
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Sweet.........wish mine was in that good of shape.
But hopefully it will be close someday. Right now I'm just hoping for a mild winter so I can keep working on it.
This forum is gonna be waaaaaaay helpful as I go along on it.
I've already got lots of ideas from it.
It's kind of cool that there was nothing original on the inside of it too. (well it was original in the fact that it looked like a tornado tore thru a lumber yard)
But with all the original stuff gone I'm not tied to a "restoration" of it. I can make it how I want without the guilt of destroying something "original".
It's just my opinion but, "original" was not comfortable.
Now I just have to figure out how to put a bed and 2 La-z-boys in it!!!!
Do they make a lightweight Barcolounger????????
Thanks for all the input guys!!!!!!!!
Tim

ps......maybe someday winterizing it won't involve plastic and duct tape!!!
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