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Old 12-31-2008, 09:31 AM   #1
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We have just purchased our first Airstream, a nice 1986 31ft Sovereign with twin beds/ center bath. The trailer is in good condition and everything is in good working order. We would like to replace carpet and curtains and possibly cabinets down the road. Any advice on flooring or Curtains? I was thinking of doing both myself.
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Hello Elkhorn, Ne.
Glad to have you with us. I hail from NE Colorado (Sterling) and have family in Western, Ne. We installed a floating floor in our unit last year. It kind of resembles slate. We picked it up at Home Depot. We were torn between having a carpet company replace it and after getting the run around from the carpet store we went with the laminant and I installed it. We kept the carpet in the living area and bedroom but the laminant went in the Kitchen and bath area.
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We're about 50 miles east of Pensacola in Walton County.
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We have just purchased our first Airstream, a nice 1986 31ft Sovereign with twin beds/ center bath. The trailer is in good condition and everything is in good working order. We would like to replace carpet and curtains and possibly cabinets down the road. Any advice on flooring or Curtains? I was thinking of doing both myself.
Say, look at the Can Opener Rally - it might be a great place to visit and meet other Airstreamers, many of whom have older units. All of whom will want to tour your unit and show you how to look for potential problems.

In any Airstream restoration/upgrade it's always best to learn from those who have gone before you! Your unit is PROBABLY too new to have some of the serious issues that older units have, but inspecting to determine that you don't have a rusted frame, or hidden damage due to leaks (floor rot) etc. is very important. There is nothing worse than doing a cosmetic upgrade, then having to tear it out six months later because there was an underlying problem that needed attention but you missed it.

Many an Airstreamer has had a leak around the toilet seal, or a pipe that has a pinhole leak, etc.

We all hope you'll be very happy 'streaming, and there are SO many great ideas for snazzing up your unit that a little reading and visiting should be done before you start. (Of course you could search for Pamela Anderson's airstream if you want some truly "unique" decor ideas.)

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Old 12-31-2008, 04:03 PM   #7
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Hello to a fellow 1986 Sovereign owner! We purchased ours 2 summers ago. I replaced the carpet, but installed new carpet rather than laminate due to our use of the trailer in the winter. When the carpet was removed, I found four big rotten spots in the floor. Hopefully, you won't have that problem! I resealed everything on the trailer & I'm happy to say it's waterproof (for now!). I had the couch reupholstered & new curtains made (by Silverthreads of this forum). Have refloored the bathroom & installed a new toilet. Cabinets are in really good shape, so they'll stay! Hope you have a good time with your projects! Maybe you won't have too many! We really like the trailer & it's roominess. Hope you will too!
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:41 PM   #9
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Hello to a fellow 1986 Sovereign owner! We purchased ours 2 summers ago. I replaced the carpet, but installed new carpet rather than laminate due to our use of the trailer in the winter. When the carpet was removed, I found four big rotten spots in the floor. Hopefully, you won't have that problem! I resealed everything on the trailer & I'm happy to say it's waterproof (for now!). I had the couch reupholstered & new curtains made (by Silverthreads of this forum). Have refloored the bathroom & installed a new toilet. Cabinets are in really good shape, so they'll stay! Hope you have a good time with your projects! Maybe you won't have too many! We really like the trailer & it's roominess. Hope you will too!
I looked at your pictures. What a transformation after the stripping. Why did you 'strip'? Are you actually stripping the clear coat? How would you describe the project? Is 'stripping' something that should be done regularly?
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We have just purchased our first Airstream, a nice 1986 31ft Sovereign with twin beds/ center bath. The trailer is in good condition and everything is in good working order. We would like to replace carpet and curtains and possibly cabinets down the road. Any advice on flooring or Curtains? I was thinking of doing both myself.
The first thing you should do, is make sure the trailer is water proof.

Exterior gaskets should all be replaced, like the entrance door, access compartments, opening windows, and especially the sewer vent pipe cover gaskets.

A bead of Vulkem sealer should be installed on all the glass to metal joints on all fixed windows, like the wrap or wing windows, stack and vista view windows as well.

Give the tail lights and all the clearance lights, a first class inspection as well.

Everything else should be put aside, until that task is done.

Water leaks in an Airstream, damages many things, that can be costly to repair, especially the floor. Mold can also result from those same leaks.

If your going to tow the trailer, you should make sure that the axles are ok.

You can check them out yourself, in just a few seconds.

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Old 12-31-2008, 11:06 PM   #11
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Welcome to the forum ~ and to the great world of Airstreams!

Best advice, go out camping as soon as possible! Find out what you like and what you want to "fix"... do the safety list first, then work on the cosmetic issues as well as the decorating! It is all fun! Be sure to take in some rallies and meet other Airstreamers, you won't regret it!

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Those pictures are of my 1976 Overlander. I've got to refigure out how to post pictures in there. I have stripped the 1986 Sovereign, but not polished to a mirror finish. It looks way better than it did before stripping. I stripped the clearcoat because it was all peeling. Once you strip it, you never have to do it again. The main thing is keeping the skin coated with wax or a new type of coating. I'm experimenting with something called "Sharkhide", but that's another story. This is what the Sovereign looks like before & after stripping & light polishing.
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The first thing you should do, is make sure the trailer is water proof.

Exterior gaskets should all be replaced, like the entrance door, access compartments, opening windows, and especially the sewer vent pipe cover gaskets.

A bead of Vulkem sealer should be installed on all the glass to metal joints on all fixed windows, like the wrap or wing windows, stack and vista view windows as well.

Give the tail lights and all the clearance lights, a first class inspection as well.

Everything else should be put aside, until that task is done.

Water leaks in an Airstream, damages many things, that can be costly to repair, especially the floor. Mold can also result from those same leaks.

If your going to tow the trailer, you should make sure that the axles are ok.

You can check them out yourself, in just a few seconds.

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Andy,

Thanks for the advice. I'm excited to get to work on replacing my gaskets and checking my axles. Also, I have one dent/ crease on the front corner of my 'new' 86 Sovereign. Can dents be 'pulled' or does the skin/ panel need to be replaced?
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[quote=beckybillrae;652474] I'm experimenting with something called "Sharkhide", but that's another story. quote]

I am interested to see and hear how the Sharkshide works out for you. Also, I do not want a mirror shine on my '90, but I do want to get the Oxidation off. How did the "Satin" finish hold up during polishing? It's hard to tell from photos.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm excited to get to work on replacing my gaskets and checking my axles. Also, I have one dent/ crease on the front corner of my 'new' 86 Sovereign. Can dents be 'pulled' or does the skin/ panel need to be replaced?
If the dent is an "oil can," they can usually be gently pounded out, leaving little to no marks.

If the dent has creases, then the panel must be replaced.

You say on a corner, so if it's a quarter panel, you can cover that with a "segment protector," to hide it.

Please post a photo, and I can better help you.

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I am interested to see and hear how the Sharkshide works out for you. Also, I do not want a mirror shine on my '90, but I do want to get the Oxidation off. How did the "Satin" finish hold up during polishing? It's hard to tell from photos.[/quote]

So far so good on the Sharkhide. We'll see how it looks after a long winter out in the weather! As far as the satin finish......I previously polished a 1976 Overlander to a mirror finish. I found it actually easier to control the finished product on that project than with the "light" polish on the 1986 Sovereign. The endcaps on the Sovereign were very oxidized from missing clearcoat. I used an orbital polisher with "Heavy Metal" polish & then the cyclo with Nuvite S on those. They came out pretty uniform. However, the sides of the unit I only used the cyclo & Nuvite S. I didn't want a mirror finish on the trailer, just to clean it up a bit. The result isn't as uniform as I would have liked it. It has some areas that are shinier than others. I think it was due to high spots that shined out more than lower spots. I believe this is called the "Leopard" effect. If I were to do it again (which I may sometime), I would use the orbital polisher first for the entire thing & then go over it with the cyclo. If the Sharkhide works out & keeps the shine protected well, I might even go for the mirror finish again. When I had the '76, I found it a little obcessive compulsive for me to keep it without waterspots after just waxing. I can't go there again!
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:51 PM   #18
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Greetings from another 1986 31' Sovereign owner!

As noted, check the running gear (tires, brakes, bearings), check the safety stuff (propane stuff, fire/CO2/propane detectors), get it dry (Andy is The Man) and then go camping to see what works and what doesn't, what you like and what you don't.

Personnaly, I never leave home without some Sharkbite (or similiar) push on plumbing fittings in 1/2" and 3/8" (had a copper fitting blow out once and had it repaired in about 5 minutes, I carry a valve and and end cap in each size), some .032 stainless aircraft safety wire and, of course, duct tape.

We installed a free floating laminate floor last year (everywhere but bath) and so far it has held up great despite efforts of dog and cat. In the bathroom, we replaced the OEM toilet with a Sealand Traveler Lite and wish we had done it day 1. And, while we had the toilet out, we installed Marmoleum flooring there which is great - pretty much no maintenance and much happier than laminate when wet.

Lots of other little projects...

One caveat - you WILL find some things that seem worse than they are (soft rotten sections in floor, holes in belly skin, rust on steel parts). All require attention but no special skills -- most any problem you will encounter has been addressed on this forum and you will often find several solutions to a given gremlin.

As for curtains -- we thought about new all around but the budget was getting a mite lean so we removed them, washed them gently in Oxyclean and dried them in the sun (after carefully laying them out with the folds in place). They are 400% better (do they look new? No. Do they look fine for now? You bet).

So, again, go camping. Make a "punch list". Do "operational" items first and then poke at cosmetics and "nice to haves". But camping is the goal! And if you see another Airstream around, say "hey", they tend to be occupied by pretty deluxe people...


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What is a 'floating floor'? I was planning on putting new carpet in the back of the Sov. where the twin beds are and some sort or Laminate in the entry area (kids and dog). I was hoping to replace without removing cabinets (just the pull out couch). I would just leave the old carpet under the cabinets.
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Hi and welcome to the forum!

What 'Floating Floor" means is simply that the flooring is not glued or tacked down. The float is needed do to flexing of the sub floor as well as temperature expansion and contraction.

Many here have replaced their floors and detailed it here.

Searching on Replacement flooring will bring up a wealth of useful info!

I replaced rug with seamless vinyl and love it. In all cases cabinets stay in place.

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