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Old 11-10-2014, 08:51 PM   #81
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Check out the custom sofa bed we built for our 86 32' bunkhouse, that mechanism might suit you as well. Our thread is in the knowledge base under 1986 Excella bunkhouse.
Do you mean the bunk that drops down to form a sofa back (if I understand correctly?) There are so many beds to choose.from...

I looked up your gallery. Where is the knowledge base?

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Old 11-10-2014, 09:31 PM   #82
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The airstream KnowledgeBase is just threads broken down by airstream model. We hear you about size, but in some ways size is even more of a premium with so many people-- either way, every inch needs to be accounted for, with special consideration given to sight lines and other design elements to feel as spacious as possible. Our 86 is a narrow body, of course. Fully 14' of the coach is the bunkroom and the side bath, so that leaves the rest for living space and our own bed, plus eating space for ten to twelve and sleeping space for grandma. You have great ideas and are paying attention to the most important part: design and layout. 20' can live much "larger" than twice as much space if it is a well-designed 20'. The sofa we put in our 32 is 9' long, 2/3 of which pulls put via load - rated drawer slides. The back cushions become the rest of the mattress, and there are no legs holding up the extension. There's plenty of space to walk by when extended, and tons of storage underneath. We're really happy with the design and will definitely use the design again. We still decided to do a permanent bed for ourselves this time, and have not regretted it at all even with the space it takes. It has so much storage under it, too, since it's much higher than a sofa. Just some things to consider. Good luck on your project!
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Another price point for a 2012 20 foot flying cloud - we bought ours this year (2014) or two years old. The purchase price was $38k - including an Equal-i-zer hitch. I think the price was somewhere between what a dealer would have purchased or consigned the camper for (a dealer made several increasing offers for the camper), and the advertised price. The 20 foot works very well for us, a couple, for our brief trips so far. We do like that the 20 foot flying cloud does not have a wet bath. We look forward to taking longer trips in the future.
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:02 AM   #84
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Another price point for a 2012 20 foot flying cloud - we bought ours this year (2014) or two years old. The purchase price was $38k - including an Equal-i-zer hitch. I think the price was somewhere between what a dealer would have purchased or consigned the camper for (a dealer made several increasing offers for the camper), and the advertised price. The 20 foot works very well for us, a couple, for our brief trips so far. We do like that the 20 foot flying cloud does not have a wet bath. We look forward to taking longer trips in the future.
Thanks ukulelel2010. I have seen two 2012s in VA and CO with an average
asking price just under 43K. At about 12% off, it seems pretty fair, esp, with the hitch. Sure would like to know other examples, though, to get a feel for an average selling price vs. age. I would want to be fair to both sides.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:50 AM   #85
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Re: your post about TV in bed area...

Noticed this older post of yours in reviewing the thread to see evolution of ideas.
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Agreed. I'd like to move the tv to the bedroom - it's already wired for second tv there - and install two door reefer...wonder if JC could do that conversion for me....?


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As it happens, the PO of my 20 installed (himself, was my understanding) an after-market bracket on the bed side of the dining/bed partition bulkhead. This apparently worked well. The tv was nicely viewable from bed as well as from the left side of the dinette with the bracket extended past the partition. The bracket was mounted IIRC with 6 bolts through the partition. Here is the picture from the seller

http://www.airstreamclassifieds.com/.../11/858263.jpg

With no TV over the fridge in this Safari 20, I would also consider installing a larger 2 dr fridge if I find the original too small.
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Thanks for the pic, Myles!


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Has anyone in a 20 converted to a China /Porcelain Toilet ? Manuf./Model ?
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