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09-05-2012, 09:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Got a phone call today
So, Traveland RV in Langley, BC (just east of Vancouver) called us today to tell us that our 2013 28' Serenity finally showed up. We have been patiently waiting and wondering when we would get this call. We ordered the trailer back at the end of May. They assured us the trailer would be ready by the end of July. We then made plans for a 10 000 km trip from Victoria, BC to central Ontario (family) and back for the month of August. We booked flights for the kids to meet us part way so we could do some of the shakedown without the added distraction they would definitely bring. Unfortunately after all plans were set, we got an email mid July saying the trailer won't be ready till late August, early September. After saying a bunch of colorful metaphors, I calmly asked about a loaner. It took them a week to figure things out, but agreed to loan us a trailer for our trip. They could have said no way, not our problem, but in the interest of maintaining good customer relations, they gave us the keys to a 26' trailer. A SWB. We took this in stride and looked on the bright side of things, after this trip, we would have a base to compare the Airstream to.
After spending a couple of hours at the dealership on the 8th of August so they could set up the hitch and prepare the loaner trailer, we were off. I learned a huge amount about towing a trailer very quickly. One of the things that surprised me the most, was the amount of gas it takes to haul one of those things. The SWB they loaned us was quite tall and had about a 4' X 8' section of flat surface hitting the wind. Any headwind and we saw a huge difference in gas consumption. I really hope the Airstream is better on gas than that thing.
All in all, it was a good trip. We got back to the dealership on the 30th of August, dropped off the loaner without issue. We were hoping that they had received the Airstream while we were gone and it would be sitting there waiting for us all shiny and ready to go, but alas, no. So, we are making arrangements to head over to the mainland to pick up our new toy for next weekend. Can't go this weekend, moving from one house to another across town, closer to the kids' school, better RV parking on the property, shorter commute for work, etc. We plan on camping locally on the mainland for a couple of nights to flush out any issues right away. It is about a 2 hour drive and a 90 minute ferry ride to the dealership from Vancouver Island. So any warranty work is a 4 hour trip and approximately $275 for the ferry one way. Don't want too many of those trips unless we incorporate it into a camping outing for a few weeks.
Looking forward to becoming a member of the Airstream community. Hopefully we get to enjoy the trailer a bit more this year, at least here on the island anyway. It's a big island, lots to see from a new perspective.
Interesting side note, we pre-booked all our campsites before we heard about not getting our trailer. At two of the sites we ended up parking right next to an Airstream. Coincidence? Some divine influence rubbing our noses in it! Either way, great conversations and interesting stories. More to follow, I'm sure.
Stephen and Daisy
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09-05-2012, 09:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
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Glad to hear it worked out for you. I wonder how many dealers would do that.
There is a plus side. You put all those miles on someone else's trailer.
Ken
PS the cat in my avatar is named Daisy. She has 10,000+ miles in an Airstream. Just to clarify, she rides in the TV
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09-06-2012, 11:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 31' Classic
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,077
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What a story. You sure live in a beautiful part of the world. We are looking forward to our trip out there from Virginia this Fall.
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09-06-2012, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Stephen and Daisy, good to hear that everything is coming together with the new Airstream. While I do enjoy my vintage Bambi II I would buy a new Airstream in a heartbeat if I could afford one. Good plan you have on spending a couple of nights in the new unit before taking her home. I suspect you will find a few minor issues for the dealership to deal with. I also think that you see a huge difference in how the Airstream tows compared to the SOB. Good Luck with your Airstream and hope you have many years of enjoyment with the best looking travel trailers available.
Stand by for lots of ohs, ahs and questions everywhere you take her in your travels.
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09-16-2012, 12:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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We picked up our trailer yesterday. It was quite a sight. It was super shiny and clean sitting on the lot. A 2013 28' International Serenity in Mint Green decor. Traveland RV did a great job prepping the trailer. We were at the dealer for about 3 hours going over systems, setting up the hitch and getting the final paperwork done. A few heart palpitations as I handed over a very large cheque to the business manager.
There was quite the buzz about this trailer. I'm guessing they don't get too many in this size, model and colour. Lots of people saying they absolutely love the interior and the layout. We were kids in a candy store.
We upgraded a few things, got the inverter, bedroom TV, convection microwave, second A/C (which bumped us to a 50 amp service) AND we got the Eddie Bauer 16" wheels and tire set. 4 aluminum rims, 1 steel rim for the spare and 5 Michelin LT tires. Too many stories on this forum about blowouts. I was a bit surprised that the original 5 wheel and tires were not in the coach as I read one forum member describe. The tire sticker on the outside of the trailer reflects the 16" wheels. Maybe they will do this more often if people ask hard enough like we did.
Once we drove away, lots of looks from drivers and people on the side of the road. We only drove 10 kms to a local RV park so we could run trailer systems through their paces. Everything works, no issues at all. The A/Cs are heat pumps as well, so they took the chill off the air at night. They are quite loud though. That will take some getting used to. Ran up the furnace, water heater, fridge, all of it. The other campers must have thought we were nuts, lights on and off, A/Cs flashing and shutting down, stereo, TV, you name it, we tried it.
This is one sweet trailer. It has LED lights everywhere except the range hood vent lights. Should allow the batteries to last much longer when dry camping. Might do that next weekend just to really check things out.
Even the short drive from the dealer to the campsite, we noticed a big difference in the way the whole rig felt. With the loaner SWB, ever bump sent an extra, fairly noticeable wave through the truck, and this was so much smoother. The weight difference was dramatic too. The 26" SWB was 6700+ lbs without our gear in it, and this is 5800 ish unloaded. Almost 900lbs and this is 2" longer. I'm looking forward to our next trip that will take us a few hundred, or thousand kms so we can better appreciate the way this tows, fuel economy, headwinds, sway when trucks pass, etc. As a side note, we got a dual cam sway control hitch put on. Don't know if wI will need it, but everyone says its the way to go.
Anyway, we've rattled on long enough. Time to call it a night and enjoy the day tomorrow. $251 ferry ride to Vancouver Island and home.
Stephen & Daisy
PS-thanks to everyone who passed on some advice via PM about the tires and other things to look out for.
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09-16-2012, 06:26 AM
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Moderator
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Santa Rosa Beach
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Great story! Congrats on the new baby. May you have many great Airstream adventures.
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09-16-2012, 08:15 AM
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Tenkara Fly Angler
1975 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Vernon
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Congratulations!!! Just got back from Jasper NP and Banff. Had some 40 mph headwinds in Wyoming up and down those hills on 125. She pulled beautifully. I am sure you will notice a difference.
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09-16-2012, 09:41 AM
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
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True love only happens once!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StokerDoc
We picked up our trailer yesterday. It was quite a sight.
Stephen & Daisy
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09-16-2012, 10:54 AM
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Old School Young Gun
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Olney
, Illinois
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These AS's are notoriously fuel efficent because of the aerodyanmic design. You will most likely see a "+" in the fuel economy side of it!
Congrats and welcome to owning an AS!
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09-16-2012, 07:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 32' Excella
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Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Wow!!!! Really cool!
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09-16-2012, 07:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Thats sooooo coool. keep us posted on your adventures!
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09-16-2012, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 27' FB Flying Cloud
Fraser Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,966
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Hi Stephen and Daisy!
I bought my trailer from the same dealership. I am fairly happy with their post-sale service. They also went beyond the call of duty, i.e. towed the FaN home for me because I did not have a hitch. Did they leave a rose and note on the bed? I thought that was a nice touch.
You are probably home by now but was going to suggest you spend a couple of nights at a RV park on the mainland so you could try everything out and revisit the dealership with any issues/questions before heading home.
One thing to consider in future - their service department is very busy, especially in the spring/fall when people want their units dewinterized/winterized and any issues attended to during the pre/post heavy camping season. So, if you wish to incorporate a service visit with a trip, you'll have to phone/plan in advance (three weeks minimum).
BTW, I haven't seen any new Airstream inventory there for quite some time. I wonder if they are only taking custom Airstream orders now? I purchased my trailer off the lot (and there were at least four other new Airstreams to choose from).
I see another Airstream in the service yard - that's where they always put the Airstreams.
Your unit sounds beautiful. Please post some pictures of the interior. I have some Spring green in my interior and I love it.
I know that -- gulp! -- feeling when you passed the cheque over. However, every Airstreamer smiles when handed the key, and we should never regret anything that makes us smile.
Keep your trailer washed and Walbernized and it will always shine!
I bet you were a bit freaked about taking it on the ferries. I always worry about people bashing their car doors on the side. Hope they put you with the tractor-trailers.
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09-16-2012, 09:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Thanks for all the kind words. We are home now. According to the girl at BC Ferries, we are 48' long, so that equates to $240, truck, trailer, 2 adults and of course, the fuel surcharge. Pretty sure fuel prices aren't going down, so why the surcharge? Just raise the price and be done with it!
They put us in the lower level, 4 lanes wide, but only used 3 lanes, so we were straddling lanes. Much more room between vehicles side to side. No issues at all. We hopped in the trailer, turned on the inverter and watched a movie the entire transit across. Very nice way to spend 90 mins on a ferry. Lots of looks and a few folks took pictures of our rig as well.
We have a single car driveway leading to a garage. The trailer occupies the driveway until we can get a landscaper to set us up with a nice pad to park the trailer on. The ground on the other side of the house needs some grading and a driveway put in for the trailer. So for now, the car and truck sit in front on the road, and my motorcycle is trapped in the garage. I may end up playing a bit and get the trailer as far to the side of the driveway as I can so I can get the motorcycle out. Although I can ride year round most years here, the really nice riding weather is slowly fading.
FaN, yes, there was a rose on the bed. It was a nice touch. Most people commented on how shiny the tires were. Pretty hard to mistake that the trailer was new with the glossy black rubber rolling along the roads.
Speaking of rolling, in our transit to the ferry, we had a section on a highway and were able to settle out at 100 km/hr and it cruised nicely. It was fairly calm wind wise, so we noticed that it was consuming about 20 L/100 kms on average in the Tundra. It was a short run, 10-15 kms, if that. I will be keeping an eye on it to see how it does long haul. Overall, we were impressed with how it handles thus far.
Stephen & Daisy
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09-16-2012, 09:43 PM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
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Wilton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,711
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Congratulations!
Im glad this story had a happy ending. Enjoy your new Airstream and make sure to take us along on your adventures.. and we love pictures :-)
Vinnie
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09-16-2012, 10:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 27' Overlander
Missoula
, Montana
Join Date: May 2012
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A wonderful story (so far!) and a great picture! Taking our rig to Vancouver Island is something we want to do - your story got us to thinking what the WA state ferries cost will be via Port Angeles or Whidbey Island... but, camping across the islands would be fun!
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09-16-2012, 10:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 22' International CCD
2007 Base Camp
Elk Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 657
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There was a caravan last year that came through Wells... stop by here if you ever head up Jasper way or something like that. I think every Airstream in BC was here...
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09-22-2012, 11:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Thanks to all for your kind words of encouragement. In keeping with the camping bug, we packed up today and headed up the island. Just to Nanaimo. About 2 hours north of Victoria, BC. Found a great place that backs onto the ocean. This is where the rear bedroom on the trailer shines. The view from our window is amazing. I'm eager to see how it looks in the morning as the sun comes up.
I've been reading older threads on trailer hitches, tow vehicles and the abundance of experience and knowledge within this forum. With that in mind, we took a slight detour and hit the scales just to see how we are set-up. We were alone a closed scale. The scale still worked, so we weighed a bunch of configurations. TV empty for baseline, TV & TT with WD, & without WD. I was able to weigh each axle individually as well. Found out some interesting things. According to specifications, this trailer's dry weight is 5900-6000#. With what we thought was a light load for a weekend trip, tipped the scale at 7150#. 1120# tongue weight. The real interesting thing is the weight on the TV. The dealer set up our hitch when we took delivery last week. Everything looked nice. Level trailer, nice stance on the truck, 5 links on the dual-cam WD. The front axle is 290# lighter with WD than empty. The trailer only took 200# of tongue weight, meaning the rear axle took 1150#. All axles were below GAWR, but we were over on the GVWR for the truck by 115#. By my estimation, I need to tighten my WD hitch another link, drop to 4, to transfer more of the tongue weight to the trailer and to the front axle of the truck. I tried 4 links at the scale, but it was too tight. I was able to lift the chain tensioning bar to the upper position, but when I relaxed a bit to set the pin, the bar flew back down and almost castrated me. I got lucky, it snagged my jeans ripping them open at the crotch. I only received a glancing blow to the boys. It dropped me to my knees and I was white and sweaty for a few minutes. As I said, I got lucky. Learned a valuable lesson today, don't stand directly in front of the chain links while applying tension. Stand to the side. I had used the tongue jack to lift both the truck and trailer so that I wouldn't need so much force to tension the bars. Even the small amount of tension was enough to whip that bar around and give me something to remember for a very long time.
The other thing I learned is I need to tilt my hitch ball down a grove or two and then re-tension with 5 links minimum. Anybody had to do this as well recently? What sort of weight transfer did you get with each notch? I would like to have an educated guess to start with instead of too much trial and error. The good thing is I live less than 5 miles to the scales, so I can check the set-up fairly quickly.
Any help would be appreciated. Maybe in exchange for your help, I taught some of you a very good safety lesson that you don't have to learn the hard way like I did.
Stephen, Daisy and the kids.
PS, with Daisy being a doctor, a little bit of ice and some rest, and we were able to continue. No trip to the hospital, no permanent damage done to my body, just a good sized dent to my ego.
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09-22-2012, 11:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
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Hi, OK, WOW, that hurt me just reading about it. Let the tongue jack raise it higher. I raise my trailer high enough to put my spring bars on by hand. [zero pressure]
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09-23-2012, 12:12 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
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I had lifted the trailer to take the tension off the chain when I had 5 links on and I was going to 4 links immediately, so I left it there. I didn't think dropping to 4 links from 5 would be that much more tension and I could apply the tension without the aid of the jack. Again, lesson learned.
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