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Old 04-29-2017, 09:56 PM   #1
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So we are just in the process of upgrading the TV from the Nissan Frontier to the Nissan Titan in anticipation of putting our order in for a new (2018) AS. That TV shopping decision was exhausting but I believe we have chosen the best truck on the market. We plan on ordering the Serenity International 27FB twin. A few questions perhaps, would love everyone's input. My local dealer (Florida) orders ALL his AS's that are 27' or larger with TWO HVAC units. Not only would having two units cost me more money but would eliminate the exhaust fan in the bedroom! I say a single HVAC unit is sufficient to heat or cool a 27'AS. True? Also, can anyone tell me if it is worthwhile to spend the money to have the main awning push button electrical instead of manual? That manual with the stupid stick to twirl the big round screws will have me NEVER using the awning! Does AS have a decent non-manual awning system? Thanks
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:23 PM   #2
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I have no experience with the auto awning, my manual is super easy to use, it's not bad at all with the stick and wheel locks. I wouldn't pay for for the auto awning, in my opinion cost too much and just more to break.

With the AC, I would go two. I have. 23D with one AC in Colorado. When it's hot, above 80 it does okay but struggles. In Florida with a 27, I see no way one would keep you cool in that heat and humidity.
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Old 04-30-2017, 01:30 AM   #3
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Florida? Two ACs. Trust me. Today it was 94 degrees, and it's April.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:39 AM   #4
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I personally would not get the two ac units, but 99 percent of the people would and would see it as necessary. If you can live with the trailer in the low eighties inside, as I can, then one is enough. If you want cool in the seventys, then get the two. I live in Florida also. Get the two, you won't regret it. Charge the batterys using the trailer umbilical from eithe shore power or generater. If using the awning is going to be that difficult for you, I would buy an rv with a power one. These trailers need user participation, they are not automatic. The awning, sewer connections, propane tanks electrical hookups, etc, all need owner participation. If you buy you will find most of the minor problems will turn out to be normal rv stuff and no issues.
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Old 04-30-2017, 04:48 AM   #5
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Two cents worth -- two A/C's and the manual awning. Once you learn how to use it, no big deal.

Use the blue search box at the top and enter "awning power motorized automatic" -- when they fail, they are often deployed out to some degree, and you cannot move the trailer very far before repairing. A MAJOR pain and inconvenience.

Keep it simple, Stu . . .

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Old 04-30-2017, 06:21 AM   #6
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Also, can anyone tell me if it is worthwhile to spend the money to have the main awning push button electrical instead of manual? That manual with the stupid stick to twirl the big round screws will have me NEVER using the awning! Does AS have a decent non-manual awning system? Thanks
With a little practice I can take up or put away our awning in less than two minutes by myself. No problem at all. As for the awning locks, I only use the stick to flick the latch/lock near the rear of the awning. I use a simple two step folding stool to reach the round locks at either end and tight/loosen by hand. Easy Peasy as they say.
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Old 04-30-2017, 06:29 AM   #7
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Get the two A/C units. I live in VA and use both. You also now have a 50 amp trailer which adds some things but no real challenges. I have the auto awning and love it. Yeah more to go wrong, but be prepared and learn the emergency retract and you'll be ok. Get the factory solar and full awning package.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:20 AM   #8
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I don't have a power awning on my airstream but I do have one at home. The home one gets use a lot even if it's just for 10 minutes to read the paper. It's just a touch of a button. There's also no temptation to leave it out for a quick trip to the store to come back and find it destroyed by a passing shower.

The airstream manual awning is a bit quicker to deploy then a manual home one but something to think about.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:34 AM   #9
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Definitely 2 A/C's in a 27 footer, I wished I had two in my 25 footer before I sold it, but we spend most of our camping time in the Southern states in the Summer. You might be able to special order one with a fan in the bedroom. I wished I had special ordered one that eliminated the skylight in the hallway and put in a Fantastic fan instead.
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I have a twenty seven with one ac. There are times I wish it had two. And I live in Oregon. The manual awning is easy to use, and has a much less likely hood of deploying while you are doing 60 mph on a freeway.

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Old 04-30-2017, 09:31 AM   #11
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Two cents worth -- two A/C's and the manual awning. Once you learn how to use it, no big deal.

Use the blue search box at the top and enter "awning power motorized automatic" -- when they fail, they are often deployed out to some degree, and you cannot move the trailer very far before repairing. A MAJOR pain and inconvenience.

Keep it simple, Stu . . .

Thats the best awning advice. Just imagine it dies when extended!!! Would mess up an otherwise great AS trip!!!! I will go with the manual and save the money and just hassle with their stupid stick.
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Get the two A/C units. I live in VA and use both. You also now have a 50 amp trailer which adds some things but no real challenges. I have the auto awning and love it. Yeah more to go wrong, but be prepared and learn the emergency retract and you'll be ok. Get the factory solar and full awning package.
Oh, there is an emergency retract on that electric awning? Already did decide on getting the two solar panels, thanks.
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You can get much better solar equipment after market and cheaper as well. If you are a do-it-your-selfer even more savings. Search the forums to see how others like the factory solar and cost.....

One of the best after market installers even lives in Florida.... Lewster on this forum...
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Definitely 2 A/C's in a 27 footer, I wished I had two in my 25 footer before I sold it, but we spend most of our camping time in the Southern states in the Summer. You might be able to special order one with a fan in the bedroom. I wished I had special ordered one that eliminated the skylight in the hallway and put in a Fantastic fan instead.
Apparently anything bigger than the 27' has NO fan in the bedroom and am told that getting the 2nd AC unit ELIMINATES that bedroom fan. "no more real estate for a bedroom fan" if I go with the 2 AC units BUT you said something of interest. Eliminate the skylight and put in a Fantastic fan? (whatever that is). That may do the trick. I just like air moving in the AS if and when its cool enough at night to not use the AC or cold enough to not use the heat.
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You can get much better solar equipment after market and cheaper as well. If you are a do-it-your-selfer even more savings. Search the forums to see how others like the factory solar and cost.....

One of the best after market installers even lives in Florida.... Lewster on this forum...
Factory everything is what I seek but thanks. "after market" whatever may be less expensive but is a hassle and probably voids the 2 year warrantee? The 2016 AS we rented last month had 2 solar panels (factory) and kept the battery fully charged to my satisfaction. Thanks
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Apparently anything bigger than the 27' has NO fan in the bedroom and am told that getting the 2nd AC unit ELIMINATES that bedroom fan. "no more real estate for a bedroom fan" if I go with the 2 AC units BUT you said something of interest. Eliminate the skylight and put in a Fantastic fan? (whatever that is). That may do the trick. I just like air moving in the AS if and when its cool enough at night to not use the AC or cold enough to not use the heat.
The roof fans Airstream currently uses are the "Fantastic Fan" units. They work in interesting ways that may not be apparent until you've been in a trailer while they're on. for example, if the fan is at the opposite end of the trailer but you want air motion in your bedroom, you can open windows only in the bedroom, turn on the fan at the other end of the trailer and as it forces air out of the trailer it'll create a draw through the windows you have open in the bedroom and you'll get a breeze from outside.

For my part, when it gets hot in Texas we like to camp in Colorado and other places at higher altitudes and latitudes, and I like having both fans. I specifically chose a 26U with 30A service and a single AC unit and the full awning package, it's what works for us but may not be the right choice for everyone. So far, at 87 degrees in high humidity with about 2/3 of the trailer in the sun, the single AC did a fine job of maintaining a cool dry environment in the trailer for me to work all through the hot day.
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I would not have a 27' AS without 50A service and two ACs.

The manual awning works fine. The only time I wish it was electric is when I get woken up at night with an elbow to the ribs, accompanied by "Honey, the wind kicked up, can you be a dear and put the awning in please.

THEN I would pay a lot of money for an electric awning.

But yeah, 2 ACs, good to go.
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Our 27FB has single AC and 30amp, it's more than enough until you get over 100
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