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02-04-2007, 08:30 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 27' Classic FB
Anytown
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Safari 23 SE - lock fresh water intake?
Question: Is there a method to "lock" the city water in take cap?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Irish Sea
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02-04-2007, 09:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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Hello Irish -- and welcome to the Forums! I had the pleasure of knowing my great grandmother Black. Her parents came from near Waterford. But I have no accent left...
Your question could go a couple different ways to me. Are you asking about securing your city water intake so nobody could fiddle with it? Or are you asking about securing its little plastic cap that keeps coming loose & flapping in the wind?
For the latter problem I drilled the smallest holes possible through both the knurled flange & the plastic cap. Then I bent some stainless wire to insert from above; the part that doesn't insert has a C-shape to secure it in place around the outside. Make any sense?
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02-04-2007, 11:39 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 27' Classic FB
Anytown
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Bob,
Thank you I wanted to "secure" it from someone fiddling with it.
I will try that as well as check the search function.
Irish.
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02-04-2007, 01:04 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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Bob, I have that problem with my black tank flush inlet. I may try that. I know I can get a new one from Camping World for about $6, but I worry that it might leak inside the exterior shell if I try to replace it.
Irish, please post if you find anything.
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02-04-2007, 01:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 27' Classic FB
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Okay I will !
Again thanks.
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02-04-2007, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnie's Mate
Bob, I have that problem with my black tank flush inlet. I may try that. I know I can get a new one from Camping World for about $6, but I worry that it might leak inside the exterior shell if I try to replace it.
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Uh, yeah... right! It is the black tank flush. I really need to get outa this cold weather and go visit our 'baby' at storage.
Anyway Irish -- don't think I've seen a lock for the city water inlet.
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02-04-2007, 02:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Me either - crazy they lock everything else.
I can't believe there is not one in this day and age.
Irish
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02-05-2007, 07:14 AM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
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They have the fresh water tank behind a locked door. It is a pain because we only have one key...haven't a clue where the others we were given are, but I know we have some some where. Anyway, I guess they think the city water would be a hassle since you use it so often. Like you don't use the fresh water tank very often!
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02-05-2007, 09:40 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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For my black tank flush inlet cap, I simply put electrical tape (small, one pass) on the threads.....holds it pretty good, though it's not half as good of an engineering job as Bob had done.
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02-05-2007, 05:09 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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All good ideas
Newbie here - I like all the ideas and need the help.
What a wonderful world I have joined! I keep looking out the window to see if the snow has melted - no not yet...
Irish
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02-05-2007, 07:33 PM
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Aluminut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheThreeSeas
Newbie here - I like all the ideas and need the help.
What a wonderful world I have joined! I keep looking out the window to see if the snow has melted - no not yet...
Irish
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Even if it does melt....it might be a while before ours comes out of hibernation.
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02-05-2007, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master
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Three Seas-
Welcome and enjoy your new Airstream when the snow melts and temps warm up...
Just for entertainment purposes, through late 80's, Airstream put fresh water fill tube and cap behind locked aluminum access door on exterior (using 39 cent lock and key..) to prevent tampering or fiddling...
Apparently people complained about losing key or fumbling to gain access, and (probably with cost savings..) the locking door was dropped... There might be a non-Airstream solution at RV store, but I suspect a lot of other manufacturers use the plastic door/cheap lock method of preventing fiddling...
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02-06-2007, 07:56 AM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Condoluminum
Just for entertainment purposes, through late 80's, Airstream put fresh water fill tube and cap behind locked aluminum access door on exterior (using 39 cent lock and key..) to prevent tampering or fiddling...
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I don't have immediate access to ours right now, but I believe this is the situation for our 2006 so I guess they brought it back. Guess owners were getting bored.
It may be a plastic door, though. The outdoor shower is behind plastic and it, too, has a locking door.
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02-06-2007, 08:38 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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When we bought our 72 it has a locked door where it says you are supposed to put the fresh water in. And wouldn't you know it...no key to it.....we have not gotten to the plumbing yet however.....is there a way to remove the lock to have it rekeyed or is it going to have to be drilled out and replaced?
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02-06-2007, 01:19 PM
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Lock is not very sturdy
I can't be sure about your version, but ours is cheapest variety of rotating cabinet lock there is, with stamped key and minimal mechanism...
I'd try small flat screwdriver inserted into slot and wiggled aggressively while trying to rotate lock cylinder 90 degrees clockwise or counterclockwise (should move one way or the other..). After opening, you can replace with cabinet lock from almost any hardware store, if you want more secure.
I think Airstream owners also got frustrated with all the other keys required. For ours, each storage compartment (2) and each battery compartment (2) plus door (1) and water door (1) and hitch area storage padlock (1) plus hitch bar lock pin (1) and hitch lock (1) all require separate keys... Means trailer has its own keychains, and much potential for loss.. Add truck key, with locking gas cap, The Club, house key and I may need bigger pockets...
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02-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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I keep thinking there is a simple solution...
However with all of you answering -- it appears there is no easy fix.
With snow still on the roof I can't wait for April!!!
Many thanks,
Irish
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02-07-2007, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnie's Mate
They have the fresh water tank behind a locked door. It is a pain because we only have one key...haven't a clue where the others we were given are, but I know we have some some where. Anyway, I guess they think the city water would be a hassle since you use it so often. Like you don't use the fresh water tank very often!
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In my mind this is because it would be very easy for someone to dump something down into your tank, using gravity. It would be more of a problem to get much of anything UP through the city intake and into your water system.
FWIW.
Dave
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