View Poll Results: What tires are you running on your 9000#-10,000# 2 axle Classic?
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LT225/75-15 Goodyear Endurance
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20.00% |
LT225/75-16 Michelin or other brand
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68.00% |
225/75-16C, the Agilis Eurometric version
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4.00% |
Other
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8.00% |
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08-27-2021, 03:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Poll: What Tires on your 30+ foot two axle Classic?
What tires are you running on your dual axle Classic 30+?
If you selected "Other" please reply with what you are using.
Thanks,
Al
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Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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08-27-2021, 03:40 PM
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#2
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
, South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,436
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I’ll play
Michelin Agilis LT225 75 R16 115R
Installed early May this year.
30’ Slide Out yeah it’s a bit heavy.
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S/OS #001 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Dexter 4 Piston Disc Brakes, Carslile Actuator, Equal-I-Zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook. BMV-712. DEMCO 21K Lb Cast Iron coupler
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08-27-2021, 04:48 PM
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#3
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Rivet Master
2012 31' Classic
Golden Valley
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 569
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Started 15" Marathons got about 12K miles out of them.
Changed to 16" Sendel wheels with Michelin LTX (like the factory started shipping). Got 5 years and 48K out of those.
Just changed to 16" Agilis. 1300 miles so far.
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08-27-2021, 06:57 PM
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#4
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Michelin Defender LT 225/75R16
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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08-27-2021, 09:05 PM
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#5
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,321
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I may have skewed your poll. I didn't read the description properly. My Classic is an older model with the 8300 GVWR. Fully loaded the trailer axles are 7400 lbs. I have the GYE 15" at 60 psi cold - been very happy since 2017. Will replace with the same before the start of next camping season.
What is the weight on the trailer axles fully loaded?
If I were in your shoes I would go with a name brand HT type tire - LT225/75/16 "E" 121 rated, since you have the heavy slide out model. Don't over think this - go with a tire that can be easily acquired while on the road.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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08-27-2021, 10:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crispyboy
I may have skewed your poll. I didn't read the description properly. My Classic is an older model with the 8300 GVWR. Fully loaded the trailer axles are 7400 lbs. I have the GYE 15" at 60 psi cold - been very happy since 2017. Will replace with the same before the start of next camping season.
What is the weight on the trailer axles fully loaded?
If I were in your shoes I would go with a name brand HT type tire - LT225/75/16 "E" 121 rated, since you have the heavy slide out model. Don't over think this - go with a tire that can be easily acquired while on the road.
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the tip. I wasn't aware that there were any LT225/75-16s with the 121T rating until you suggested them. Most LT225/75-16R tires have a load index of 115. A few have 121, but the Michelin Agilis LT is not one of them. The Agilis C-metric is rated 121, or equivalent. In the LT version, I see Continental vancofourseason, General Grabber, and some others I'm not familiar with - Nokian, for one. I have run a lot of Michelins and Continentals on cars but not trucks or trailers. An SUV we had had Generals and they lasted a long time. Based on this and another poster who switched to Generals I will look into them and the Continentals.
Edit: on close inspection, the General and Continental are both C-metric, not LT-metric tires. They and the Agilis C-metric are all 121 rated "light truck" tires but do not carry the LT designation. Are you aware of any name brand LT-metric tires rated 121?
Al
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2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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08-28-2021, 01:40 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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Although my trailer is a heavy slide model, the GW is 11,500# and with a tongue weight of 1,400#. I have three axles loaded about as heavy as your 2 axle trailer. I run Michelin LTXs and I'm on the second set. No problems. Remember, the truck tires have a deeper tread depth by quite a bit, hence more wear and durability. (It takes longer nails to puncture the tread too.)
guskmg
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08-28-2021, 02:02 PM
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#8
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
I’ll play
Michelin Agilis LT225 75 R16 115R
Installed early May this year.
30’ Slide Out yeah it’s a bit heavy.
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I have them both on the truck and the trailer ( 30' Classic ).
Great tires , make sure they are E rated.
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08-28-2021, 02:29 PM
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#9
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1 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Palm coast
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 17
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Michelin LTX AT2 245/75 16 on 2018 30 classic
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08-28-2021, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,321
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AL,
I must apologize for typing before fully researching my earlier thread reply. It has been awhile since I have looked into swapping out for 16 inch tires and the proper service description. I searched for an hour or so and apparently a lt225/75r16 121 is not valid so please disregard. I researched this out in 2016 before the GYE came to market as I didn't want to put China-pop tires on my trailer. I was very close to doing the swap.
So with that stated I would still want to know the axle weight loaded for camping - worst case scenario. Also I would compare this to the actual axle rating listed on the trailer tag. I assume your trailer has at least 5000 GAWR axles. The tires need to support at least this amount of weight - the more the better.
If you still have the 15" rims I would probably opt for the GYE as the load rating is 2830 lbs and service description 117 at max sidewall pressure. (FYI my trailer only has 7400 lbs on the axles and run the tires at 60 psi cold - you have a much different situation).
Others have stated that they are getting reliable service with Michelin tires with the 115 service description. They must not be overloading the tires or would they be having problems. Real world testing/use cannot be ignored in my book.
If I were to pick a LT225/75r16 115 I would choose the Michelin XPS RIB or Bridgestone Duravis R238 as these seem to be true commercial tires with a closed shoulder, straight tread which would be beneficial for the trailer tracking straight down the highway.
That's all I got.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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08-28-2021, 10:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,321
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2015 25 FB
Michelin LTX AT2 245/75 16 on 2018 30 classic
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2015 25 FB - do the 245 tires actually fit into the wheel well or did you have to trim the metal back for these to fit? The 245 has a much better weight rating in comparison.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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08-28-2021, 10:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Hayward
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 20
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I just replaced my OEM LT225/75R16 Michelin with Cooper Discoverer HT3 of the same size. They are also an LT tire, spec about the same as the OEM Michelin and are made in USA. I haven't run them yet, so I can't comment further.
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08-30-2021, 07:16 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Palm coast
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 17
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@crispyboy. Yes the tires fit with no trimming on the 30. The trailer IS lifted. I had the same setup on the 25 and that did require some trimming ( 90 seconds with a whiz wheel)
Been on pretty rough roads with both setups (cross bronx and BQE- plus Chicago / Eastern Michigan roads) with no problems. Off-road They provide a better footprint when aired down
Look cooler too
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08-31-2021, 10:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,321
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I did find a tire with the heavier 121 specs @ 3197lbs. I am not familiar with the Hercules brand. A friend told me about them as he just put some on his SOB trailer. Most likely Asian made.
https://www.herculestirescommercial....Terra-Trac-CH4
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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08-31-2021, 10:45 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,736
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Hi
There are indeed some good asian made tires. There are also some that are absolute junk. Sorting that out as companies get bought and sold can be more than a bit difficult.....
Bob
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09-01-2021, 01:49 PM
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#16
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4 Rivet Member
2014 27' FB Classic
Cambridge
, New York
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 458
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Michelin 16" XPS Ribs
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09-05-2021, 10:47 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Oak Grove
, Missouri
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 18
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Goodyear Endurance
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09-05-2021, 11:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Garden Valley
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,631
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiredneck
Michelin 16" XPS Ribs
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16" Selden wheels, Michelin E rated Defenders same as my F250.
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2002 Airstream Classic 30' w/SO #2074
2007 Kubota 900 RTV
1996 Ford Bronco
2007 Lincoln LT
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09-05-2021, 06:24 PM
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#19
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2 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari S/O
Bountiful
, UT
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 57
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Michelin
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09-06-2021, 07:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
Fleming Island
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,673
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Full disclosure: When I started the poll I was running Michelin LT225/75-16 115 (2680#) tires. For various reasons as posted, I lost two of them to tread separation within 30 miles of home after checking pressure prior to leaving. They were probably aged out. One showed signs of a pothole or curb strike, the other not.
I have replaced them with Michelin Agilis Cross Climate 22575-16C (121T) for the higher load rating. I can run them at 70 psi and have more load capacity than the LT version at 80 psi.
While I was in there I replaced disc brake pads and lubed wheel bearings.
Al
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Al, K5TAN and Missy, N4RGO WBCCI 1322
2002 Classic 30 Slideout -S/OS #004
2013 Dodge 2500 Laramie 4x4 Megacab Cummins
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