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Old 05-25-2005, 10:28 AM   #21
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If we put down tiles, we can work around that, but if we go with a linoleum sheet, I'm thinking it won't be easy to cut around the partitions.
You may want to get some kraft paper to make a template first...just be sure you don't place the pattern on the flooring backwards when cutting it out.

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Old 05-25-2005, 12:35 PM   #22
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Floor tile

To all carpet removers and floor tile or linoleum installers.

The seams on the plywood floor, "move".

Therefore if you install tile, make the seams match that of the floor seams.

For the linoleum installers, your out of luck.

The seams of the floor move very slightly when the trailer is being towed. Because of that, if the floor covering in over the floor seams, it will crack, in time.

That can't happen if you use floor tile, but match it's seams with the floor seams.

The cracks will appear in the linoleum. Just give it some time.

Now we all know why Airstream switched to carpets.

Look at the floor in most any old Airstream. You will easily see the cracks. Not always, but at least most of the time.

Why have your hard work ruined?

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Old 05-25-2005, 12:39 PM   #23
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For the linoleum installers, your out of luck.
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The cracks will appear in the linoleum. Just give it some time.
FYI...my linoleum (not vinyl) has been down over 3 years now...no cracks yet.

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:06 PM   #24
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Linoleum also comes in tile, too.

http://www.environmentalhomecenter.c...ORBO_DUAL_TILE

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:06 PM   #25
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Shari.

The more miles, the faster cracks develop.

It quite well can take many years.

But most Airstream Argosy owners keep them for many years.

At least now they know what could or did cause the cracks.

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:43 PM   #26
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Shari.

The more miles, the faster cracks develop.

It quite well can take many years.
By then, I'll be ready for a change!

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Old 05-25-2005, 01:44 PM   #27
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linoleum tiles

We just had linoleum tiles put in our 74 overlander and I like the look. We were able to get solid colors tiles to make a stripe pattern against the basic mottled cream color from home depot. We found these left over at a local discount flooring place. They were a fraction of the cost. Unfortunately, we didn't know about matching the seams, so I doubt it was done that way. We did not remove anything but the carpet and the toilet and I think it worked out fine. No molding was used, but the edges were sealed with caulking. Unfortunately it was done without my input in a white shade. I was anticipating putting down a clear caulk which I think would have blended better.

If it does crack, we have extra tiles. Perhaps we will be able to replace cracked tiles if that does happen. We're not traveling yet, so all remains well.
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And with carpet, the more miles the better it looks? I think not!

I'm with Shari on this one. The linoleum was good enough for Grandma and it's good enough for me. I just want to get it down right in the first place. The more I look at the 70s interior, the more I want to reinvent it.

Somebody please save me from this madness!
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:58 PM   #29
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Shari---Shari

Like an Airstream, with the right amount of TLC, you will be around for a long long time, including the shine.

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Old 05-25-2005, 03:04 PM   #30
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Interesting - great input - we are in the same boat - our original tiles although in excellent shape have lifted in centre where we had a pool of water - trailer was so level the drip from the A/C stayed dead centre - but eventually soaked through the tile cracks this was in Nov just as the feezing weather was setting in. Thus the damp floor (as we were not aware of the pool of water) froze and heaved the edges of 4 tiles.

She is nice and dry now and we are going to try injecting a heavy duty floor adhesive to get them stuck back down - problem is they will never be perfect again.

We have too much on our plate right now but do not want to scuff and split a tile - but will eventually be replacing the tile if the glue does not work.

I like tile if done correctly - which means 90% of the job is preparation. The tile in the GT have lasted 35 years - with probably carpet over them may the last 10 or so.

I love the look of Shari's Job (A-1) but if anything happened to scuff, scrape, tear or split/crack the one sheet system - you have a full replacement to do again. Where as the individual tiles are easily replaced - (if you have spares) which is another key element always by 30% overs - not for the mistakes when you do the job cause none of us here make any mistakes....but for down the road when they are discontinued and you can not get a single tile from anywhere to replace that one tile that just happend to get damaged by a fluke dropsy. (we live and learn)
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Why is it that the CCD floor I saw was one piece of sheet goods?? Is it true also that the Airstreeam trailers 25 feet and under are a single piece of OSB now?? Would these two things be one and the same thing now and allow the single piece of sheet goods to be used.....

If this is true, I need to find a piece of OSB big enough for my Ambassador so I can use the CCD style floor.
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:30 PM   #32
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... I need to find a piece of OSB big enough for my Ambassador so I can use the CCD style floor.
Shipping would kill you Tedd.

I came up with, what I think, is a contiguous solution for floors assembled with 4X8 sheets. PM me if you want details.

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I have only been able to find linoleum in 2 meter wide rolls, and in my case the seam will end up mostly under cabinets and permanent furniture, so no seams (exposed). The other "plus" with true linoleum is I believe it is solid color top to bottom (except for the jute backing)(and I think sheet vinyl only has a surface pattern/color - so you can tear or wear through that surface). Armstrong has linoleum and then there's a company called Forbo that caries a linoleum called "Marmoleum" they both have great web site info . . . anyway, I'm going with a linoleum and that was my 2 cents. Would like to see what you end up with.
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The other "plus" with true linoleum is I believe it is solid color top to bottom (except for the jute backing)(and I think sheet vinyl only has a surface pattern/color - so you can tear or wear through that surface). Armstrong has linoleum and then there's a company called Forbo that caries a linoleum called "Marmoleum" they both have great web site info . . . anyway, I'm going with a linoleum and that was my 2 cents. Would like to see what you end up with.
True, linoleum is solid all the way through. Most residential vinyl flooring products are layered with various grades of vinyl, paper, backing parts. Some of the commercial products (Armstrong - Classic Corlon for one) has a thicker solid face (.085) which is more durable instead of the paper-like layers so many of the 'box stores' sell.

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Old 05-25-2005, 06:53 PM   #35
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Mark,

Check out the link in my previous post on this thread for one place that sells tiles (and there are others, too). Any Marmoleum dealer can sell you tiles as well as sheet goods. As tiles, you can feel free of the kind of concerns raised here--and enjoy all the advantages of linoleum!

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I have only been able to find linoleum in 2 meter wide rolls, and in my case the seam will end up mostly under cabinets and permanent furniture, so no seams (exposed). The other "plus" with true linoleum is I believe it is solid color top to bottom (except for the jute backing)(and I think sheet vinyl only has a surface pattern/color - so you can tear or wear through that surface). Armstrong has linoleum and then there's a company called Forbo that caries a linoleum called "Marmoleum" they both have great web site info . . . anyway, I'm going with a linoleum and that was my 2 cents. Would like to see what you end up with.
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Mary, thanks.
What I meant to say was, I can't find linoleum wide enough to cover the whole floor w/o a seam . . . like with Sheet Vinyl (12' wide rolls).
I do like the linoleum tile better than Vinyl Comp Tile - partly because it feels softer . . . and if you're going to have seams anyway, then you can have fun with patterns/contrasting tiles.
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Put in one piece of a high quality vinyl on a spotless smooth floor. We put ¼ inch ply down to cover the cracks of the original Airstream plywood, then the vinyl. It was one 17.6 foot long by 12 foot wide. I goes from under the sofa to the bed room door. It looks like a real wood floor, is easy to keep clean and does not move and has not cracked or shows dimples from chair legs and would be very hard to tear. The vinyl cost about $ 550.00, not cheap but was worth the install.
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Used one piece of 12 by 24 vinyl on a bare 3/4 marine plywood floor with bondo filled joints between the ply well sanded. Checked around and the wisdom was to let it float. It will be under everything including the channel that will attach the shell and belly pan to the floor so it will have screws there. Will do on a hot day so it's at a near maximum size and pulled tight.
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another possibility?

Has anyone tried, or does anyone know anything about the Marmoleum Click tiles? I'm going to go look at them at a local flooring store tomorrow. From what I hear, they have a cork backing and snap together like tongue and groove tiles. Supposedly, no gluing is required so I'm guessing that's like a floating floor. I've read that they come in larger planks or 12"X12" tiles.

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Easy way to lay sheet vinyl

I technique I use when doing sheet vinyl or carpet in house bathrooms, etc, is this:

I get role of 2-3 foot wide brown paper from Home Depot. I roll it out across floor to be covered, and cut to fit walls. I keeping adding cut sections as I work around walls, pipes, fixtures, etc. I cut each piece and tape as needed.

When I'm done, I have single piece of paper patterned exactly as I need cut.

I roll up, place over carpet or sheet vinyl, tape it down, make cuts, remove pattern, roll up new floor, and install it.

Much easier than anythinng else I've done.
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