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Old 12-18-2005, 04:40 PM   #201
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ha! lemme tell ya... nothing depreciates a home's value more than this.... except maybe an engine block swingin from a tree... or maybe a school bus on blocks (with camo paint)...(note for those reading... DO NOT do this before you refinance your house... or the bank may come asking YOU for money!)

i can hear it now... you're gonna buy WHAT??? haven't you lernt nuthin, boy?

hahaha!

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Old 12-18-2005, 05:06 PM   #202
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Old 12-18-2005, 10:47 PM   #203
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Is winter getting to me?

I guess I've been couped inside to long and am suffering from cabin fever. Or maybe its one of those senior moment kind of things. Well here goes. What do you all think of doing the inside of the outer shell and then the inside of the inner shell with Rhino Lining? We saw a fellow who did the entire outside of his custom Tear Drop trainer with Rino Lining. Not only did it look really good but it made his trailer water tight. I understand that Rhino Lining can be applied with several variation in finished surface qualities.

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Old 12-19-2005, 04:50 AM   #204
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What do you all think of doing the inside of the outer shell and then the inside of the inner shell with Rhino Lining?
but if you put it on the outside, you'd never have to poish it!

ha!

seriously, i would think that would be a messy process. i've had good luck with alcoa sealer. that, and since i replaced all the skins with new, and vulkemed the crap outta them, i doubt i'll have leaks when all's said and done. i'm down to 2. both on the end caps. this week, if the weather stays nice, i plan on pulling the front window, and re-sealing everything. the rain on mine seems to wick into the seams on the end-caps and run down behind the frame on the front window... then into the trailer. when i do the window, i'll alcoa seal the outside seams with a seringe and a needle (right now, i've only sealed the inside seams).

once all that's done, i plan on shooting a nice coat of undercoating on the bare rivets (inside shell) just for good measure. everything we're talking about is 10X more than airstream originally did, so we're all good!

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Old 12-19-2005, 06:11 AM   #205
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Good Idea

[quote=NorCal Bambi] What do you all think of doing the inside of the outer shell and then the inside of the inner shell with Rhino Lining?

Good idea.
How much would it weigh? Other than how much will it cost, I always ask.
I see some SOB's have rubber roofs, sort of a membrane on top. They spray coatings on foundations too.
Could the spray include an insulator as well?

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Old 12-19-2005, 09:29 PM   #206
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"I understand that Rhino Lining can be applied with several variation in finished surface qualities."

What an interesting idea. I had though about Rhino for my very UV damaged bathtub, although I have decided now on White-Cote.

My truck is great with it - this is the second truck that I have done but I am now sure that I want it on my airstream although it may have some utility. I just want to polish

Rhino forever,
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:19 PM   #207
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Jordan, I'm not thru reading all of your thread yet, but I've got a couple questions. Please forgive me if you've already answered these.

What did you use as sealant between the wheel wells and the frame? Is that a Parrbond or Sikaflex product? In my '73, there was a type of gasket material there, but I know I'll never find it.

Where did you buy your fresh water tank? I need a new one as the old one has stuff growing in it.

I have a more complicated question concerning the rear frame area, but it will have to wait until later tonight. If I understand your description of the outriggers back there, they are like mine and inadeqate to the task. If you don't mind, I'll post a pic or two and we can compare notes.

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The Slippery Slope

I have completed removing the interior from my '58. Tomorrow I start removing the lower interior skins in preparation for the body lift.

I've been amazed at how quickly I've been getting things done so far... with any luck I'll be done with the floor replacement and have the interior reinstalled by March

Thanks for all the great information in this thread!
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:18 AM   #209
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Jordan, I'm not thru reading all of your thread yet, but I've got a couple questions. Please forgive me if you've already answered these.

What did you use as sealant between the wheel wells and the frame? Is that a Parrbond or Sikaflex product? In my '73, there was a type of gasket material there, but I know I'll never find it.
no problem, jim. on the wheelwells, i just used vulkem. on my trailer, it does not have an inner fender. the skin on the outside is the fender wall. i've noticed on some larger trailers, there's a second fender in there. when i mounted my walls, i put a generous bead of vulkem on the tabs, then after it dried, i ran another bead on the inside as well. i also filled the gaps between the belly pan and the outriggers at both ends of the wheel well. i think it's sealed about as good as can be!

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Where did you buy your fresh water tank? I need a new one as the old one has stuff growing in it.
eBay. i've decided to change the location of it since i bought it, though. i was orriginally going to have it hanging down below the pan, but have since changed my mind, and will now be putting it under the bed. i hope the size i have will fit.

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I have a more complicated question concerning the rear frame area, but it will have to wait until later tonight. If I understand your description of the outriggers back there, they are like mine and inadeqate to the task. If you don't mind, I'll post a pic or two and we can compare notes.
post away. the only problem i found with the additional outriggers i installed is it makes the rear belly pan look a little thicker behind the wheel well until it passes the outrigger. it's very negligable, but worth note. look really closely at the attached pic and you can seewhere it tapers down to the tail a little later than the original. like i said, you really have to look for it, but worth mentioning, none-the-less.
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Old 01-02-2006, 05:20 AM   #210
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I have completed removing the interior from my '58. Tomorrow I start removing the lower interior skins in preparation for the body lift.

I've been amazed at how quickly I've been getting things done so far... with any luck I'll be done with the floor replacement and have the interior reinstalled by March

Thanks for all the great information in this thread!
best of luck with it! like everything in life, sometimes what seems like the simplest project takes forever! on the other side of that coin, though, i replaced 3 panels in a day, even though i thought i'd be there all weekend.

the hard work is quite reewarding, though. you can't deny that.

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Old 01-06-2006, 09:09 PM   #211
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The picture of condensation really shows what must be a longtime airstream problem. Two metal layers, sealed, with no ventalation, does not sound like a good idea. When I took the inner skins off of my Bambi I noticed a lot of oxidation in the aluminum and the elevatior bolts were very rusty. I imagine everybody has found the same thing. I had been thinking about what they do today when they redo a roof on a house. They install vents at the top of the roof and in the bottom so air can circulate for the purpose of removing moisture. Water vapor escaping from a house has always been a problem with exterior paint and wood rot,etc. I have not come up with what I would consider a good solution as of yet. But have had some thoughts. Most to date are too much work. Here goes on one thought. Each section between ribs in the shell should have ventelation. Two or three sections could be joined as a unit by drilling a 1" hole in the bottom and top of the ribs. Next there are small round vents with screened openings that are available for machine and electronic use. One or two of these could be mounted in holes in the "C" channel and through the plywood floor. This would allow fresh air to enter in the bottom of the wall sections. The top of the sections could be joined by tubing (1" in diameter) with hole in it for the air moving up between the sections. The air would be collected in this tube and exit into holes in the ribs around the top vent window. Then if the top vent window was left open a crack, this should allow a circulation of air between the walls. I was thinking of this method because I don't like the idea of putting any new holes for tubing to exit the top of the roof. That would just be asking for another leak. I am open to anyones ideas on a modification of this idea. Probably just getting carried away!!! If anyone is interested in such a maybe crazy idea, I might do a drawing.
Norcal, I would love to discuss this process at length. What do you think of the idea of starting a thread on the topic? That way we won't be hijacking JP's thread! I have the same condensation issues and I have my trailer apart, just about ready to put the floor back in.

Anyway, I would love to see a few drawings and a few other particulars about the type of parts to use, etc. It sounds an awful lot like the way I ventilated the roof on the new screen porch a few years back. What do you think?

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Howdy, Jim

Norcal, I would love to discuss this process at length. What do you think of the idea of starting a thread on the topic? That way we won't be hijacking JP's thread! I have the same condensation issues and I have my trailer apart, just about ready to put the floor back in.

Anyway, I would love to see a few drawings and a few other particulars about the type of parts to use, etc. It sounds an awful lot like the way I ventilated the roof on the new screen porch a few years back. What do you think?

Jim

My thread is "Floor replacement 63 Bambi", I have not make a post for a while because I am upgrading my computer. It should be ready in a few days. There are several things I have done lately to solve, I hope, the by-metal corrosion problem with the C channel and the steel bolts and screws. I will post comments and pics as soon as my compute is ready. Would it be OK to have discussions on my thread? I.m still looking for some small screened vents for the wall veneration situation.
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Don, Sounds good to me. I actually have your thread bookmarked, but I haven't read all the way thru yet.

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Inner skin condensation

Jim and Susan, I've finally got my computer back up and running. How does "Inner skin condensation" sound for a new thread? I'm working on some 3D drawings of ideas on solving the problem. The more members that look at this problem and suggest ideas, the better the possibilities for a solution. We are fighting basic physics and nature here, so the results should be interesting.
I am going to go ahead and start a thread even though I don't have my ideas down yet. To see what comes up.
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Sounds cool. Probably just what we all need. I'll go have a look see.

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Am I Nuts???

...and if i were, would any of you tell me? ha!

well, the Silver Pickle has a big brother now. i'm going to try the old camp in this one, restore that one routine... then flip em when the 18 footer is done. this trade wind was just in too good of shape to pass on. i'm running out of room, now! so this is IT, until i get that barn!

as for the '59, i have the parts i need coming next week to fabricate the missing window, then i'm planning on installing all 4 windows at once and start sealing up any remaining leaks... time to wake sleeping beauty from her winter slumber! (especially with this weather!)

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jordon, two Airstreams, sounds great. What's another project? I have so many that I will have to live to be 200 to get half of them done. It's the Winchester Mystery House theme.
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:12 AM   #220
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the goal is DEFINITELY to just fix what's broke on the trade wind, and get the 18 back together. with a new baby on the way, i really dig the tradewind layout. so does the misses. it's got a baby changing table built right into the cabinets. ha!

i promise this is IT... unless i find a good deal on a whale tail...

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