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Old 04-19-2011, 06:12 PM   #421
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That's a good tip, I'm going to build the cabinet end so that we can get to the fridge back for servicing. Also I thought I'd use mesh in part to allow plenty of heat exhaust and and similar cool air vents at the base of the unit. The modular nature of the cabinet build means that I can try a mock up first and go from there.

More battery quotes arrived, how about $970 Canadian for two 6V batteries? (that's a NO!). Good news is that Randy at BestConverter is able to ship to Canada so that's looking good but on a tip I'm currently checking into Bas Pro shop branded AGM's as there is one just 10 minutes away. At least I'd save the $280 shipping.
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Old 04-25-2011, 04:55 PM   #422
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Progress and confusion

I forget to shoot the vanity but that's all framed out much like the dinette/ lounge area.

I've been mucking around with the Precision Temp water heater installation location, the instructions require 20 sq inches of incoming combustion air and just a 2" diameter outlet for exhaust air through the powered vent. I think I'll cut a 5" diameter circle in the floor and fabricate a vent collar but extend it up 12" to avoid water and debris getting in the trailer. For the exhaust vent I can't find anything suitable to allow it to vent through the wall (2" Diameter) so I might vent that through the floor too. The input and output are going to be quite close to each other but that's my best plan so far.

I'm curious though, how can I stop water, insects and debris from getting in whilst booting down the road yet allow smooth unrestricted air flow? Any tips?
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:13 PM   #423
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I wish I had a suggestion for you. But I did rip off your holding tank bracket set up
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Old 04-27-2011, 09:48 PM   #424
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...I'm curious though, how can I stop water, insects and debris from getting in whilst booting down the road yet allow smooth unrestricted air flow? Any tips?
I've got a similar problem. All I've been able to come up with so far is an aft-facing scoop with a medium mesh screen. The scoop would project maybe 1.5" below the belly pan, not too bad if it's a couple feet under.

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Swiping ideas is definitely the way to go, that's one of the best things about these forums I reckon.

I think I've come up with a decent solution a bit like your suggestion Zep. I built a box with a large, rear, downward facing hole with a corresponding hole in the belly pan; and a slightly smaller, forward, upward facing hole through the plywood floor. It's all sealed up and insulated. I'm going to build a tray to mount the water heater on with a duct down into the box just described. I hope to get a nice relatively unrestricted amount of intake air and a drainage point all in one unit. I'll probably get a screen made up to cover the downward hole from critters (maybe a scoop too) and use a foam filter at the top to keep any spray out.

We went to an RV dealers open house today and got a deal on some 6V 2200 Ah batteries with vented boxes and a new tongue jack with foot unit. Over the course of the week I ordered all the miscellaneous stuff I could think of from Vintage including the new style Shurflo pump and accumulator tank, some stainless flush vents from iboats.com, a US spec SMEV cooktop, a vessel for the bathroom basin, a discharge pump for the Vacuflush system and a pretty cool sounding 4 tank monitoring system.

I was having a conundrum about the height of the roman tub faucet compared to the rim height on the bathroom vessel basin; luckily I chose a brushed stainless finish on the faucets so the machine shop at work offered to make a riser section for me and I imagine it'll blend in well (they make pretty cool stuff).

With the GF helping out this afternoon we got most of the window trim sections in place ready for riveting and a neighbor moving 3500km away donated a 20lb propane tank to the cause, so now I have 2 free steel 20's, they're sure not aluminum but the price was right.
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I was just playing around with the vented battery boxes and although I had wanted to vent them through the floor it's occurred to me that the inlet vent can be in the floor but the top vent should be above the battery height. I guess this means the vented gas will be ported out through a wall vent but I'm wondering if this would actually affect the aluminum skin or if the gas will be so small and diluted that it's nothing to worry about. I'd be using a stainless vent in the wall.
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I was just playing around with the vented battery boxes ... but the top vent should be above the battery height.
I wish I could find the post I'm thinking of, but I, too, felt like the hydrogen was a small consideration. I think it would dissipate regardless of whether the vent was above the battery top or not. But some smart member noted that batteries under duress (I don't recall if it was charging a too far discharged battery or if it was during high current discharge) generate an additional toxic gas, sulfuric goom-bah gas, that is really unhealthy. So venting to the outside to take care of this exceptional circumstance is a good idea. I don't think you have to worry about whether the vent is up or down or sideways--gas diffusion will take care of the problem pretty quick, as long as the diffusion path is to the outside air.

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Thanks Zep.

I just ordered grey and fresh tanks; gulp, seems like a big step. I went with 54" x 31" x 7" in polyethylene (marine thickness) with custom fittings. They drain from the top so there's nothing below them. 3 weeks to fabricate and then a couple of weeks with Fedex. For both $430, plus $220 shipping, plus probably $90 "brokerage" fees so I hope I've got the spec right.

I also bead blasted the second Jalousie handle today and I really like the atomic style handles.

I think maybe I should have made some campground reservations for the trip to California in August; it's starting to look like a GO! I kind of thought the state parks with no services would be easy to get into.
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Thanks Zep.

I just ordered grey and fresh tanks; gulp, seems like a big step. I went with 54" x 31" x 7" in polyethylene (marine thickness) with custom fittings. They drain from the top so there's nothing below them. 3 weeks to fabricate and then a couple of weeks with Fedex. For both $430, plus $220 shipping, plus probably $90 "brokerage" fees so I hope I've got the spec right.

I also bead blasted the second Jalousie handle today and I really like the atomic style handles.

I think maybe I should have made some campground reservations for the trip to California in August; it's starting to look like a GO! I kind of thought the state parks with no services would be easy to get into.
Truck if you are planning a trip to the Nor Cal parks they can be quite busy from July into august. Also the camp grounds went to site specific meaning you have to know the site you want you cant pick when you get there. Three parks not to miss are Jedidiah Smith Redwoods, Prairie Creek Redwoods and Patrick's Point State park. I go camping in nor cal every year. If you are going further south to Big Sur I would def make reservations. Big Sur is almost always booked thru Labor Day. If you need more info pm me. You can reserve thru this website Campgrounds and Camping Reservations - ReserveAmerica
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thanks for the tips, I'm going to get some research done this weekend, no doubt I'll be back with more questions. I fat box from VintageTS arrived today so I've got plenty of installing to do.
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Batteries give off gasses when charging and discharging.And remember that hot air rises so when things are getting hot the gasses need somewhere to go. The best way to do it is to have a vent at the bottom from the exterior, and a vent to the exterior above the batteries.This will keep everything flowing and venting properly with no build up of any gasses available to go into the interior.You will get smells and dangerous gasses in your coach if not done properly.
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Starting off slow today with a bit of organizing and and whilst getting the fly screens ready for taking to the shop for duplication I notice that I don't have one for the door within a door, just wondering was there ever one?
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:54 PM   #433
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My '60 has one.
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Hmmn, is it curved to fit the door? and how are they held in place.
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Venting

Shiny is good..

Black and grey 5/8" tank vents.
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Old 05-08-2011, 01:47 AM   #436
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I need more details on that venting....

The door within the door is flat screen. It has enough flex for the slight curve. It is held in with an bent "L" to and bottom.
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Thanks Frank, I'll make an L or two and see how it goes.

The vents are really nice, I got these from iBoats.com; Flush-Mount Fuel Vent Straight - Attwood. They also have a resin product with stainless cover which includes baffles to allow air out but not water back in.
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Ramping up

Today the GF primed most of the window trim and I installed the water heater output vent, completed the aluminum dinette framing and worked on countertops.

The water heater vent was one of the things that has been giving me analysis paralysis for months. In the end I had a plate welded to some T6 square tube then sandwiched some mesh between two plates and sealed it all up. I then installed this against the inside of the outside skin all with high temp RTV, on the outside I've added an old school aluminum scoop to ensure there's no way much of anything is going to get in the trailer. I still need to connect it to the heater with some hose. The whole caboodle sits on a tray that is tied into the fresh intake I've installed in the floor. I'll add a shroud to direct the cool air into the heater intake louvres then it should be done; at last.

I'm using 1/2" Baltic Birch (with some regular 1/2" Birch) for the dinette seat decks, countertops and vanity deck. For the countertops I'm building it up to 1 1/2" at the gables and edges; with two runs of 10' each they're looking huge. The dinette is a single layer and seem plenty sturdy.

It sure doesn't look like a huge amount of progress for a trailer that needs to be usable in just over 2 months!
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That framing looks pretty teck. How is it on weight?
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It's got to be quite light , an 8' length runs about 3.2 lbs. I'd have to check my cut list but I'm certain I could have picked up all the tube for the framing (20' feet of cabinets, dinette and bathroom vanity) and walked to the check out no problem. I suppose I could have gone with a lightweight hardwood but I felt that the aluminum was more stable and it allows me a greater variety of anchoring techniques for the drawers etc.

I worked on the second galley counter today, partially installed the through floor battery intake vents and drilled the plumbing to tank holes. I'm looking forward to getting a couple of coats of Danish Oil on the dinette plywood and getting it secured in place; at least I'll have something to sit on :-)
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