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10-09-2012, 09:49 PM
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Tool Hoarder
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Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by mrgreen
Sorry to hear about the door, i am re skinning mine at the moment it looks as though the top curve has been welded onto mine unless that's standard?, I got the aluminium strips welded across it to give it strength around the lockset, i hope i don't get problems with it! , re cladding the walls must be a great feeling, my next step is cutting a serving hatch, I will take a few photos and update my thread tomorrow!
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Usually the door frame is welded togeather from a couple pieces, so yes it is normal. I also added some aluminum angle to beef up the lock area of the frame. Cant wait to see your progress!!
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Originally Posted by ND10CentCan
Yet another example of persistence over pain and frustration! Love the photos to see your progress.
Sandy
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Thanks Sandy. Got the door back on today I hope that is the last time I do that!!
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10-14-2012, 11:59 PM
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#482
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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I go away from the forums for a month and come back and you're not done yet?
We need to see that thing rolling to rallies in SoCal soon...
Maybe once I ever get around to building my drawers and finishing my cabinets, I'll come up there and lend a hand. I suppose it's the least I can do after badgering you like this.
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10-16-2012, 09:23 AM
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#483
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Tool Hoarder
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Originally Posted by worldinchaos
I go away from the forums for a month and come back and you're not done yet?
We need to see that thing rolling to rallies in SoCal soon...
Maybe once I ever get around to building my drawers and finishing my cabinets, I'll come up there and lend a hand. I suppose it's the least I can do after badgering you like this.
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I know!! You would think I would be done with the electrical, inner skins, lighting, plummbing, LP, Appliances, tanks, brake lines, interior, not to mention polishing....um yeah. I have a bit more to do. If I do any camping in my rig it will be just a metal tent. Oh well.... if you come up BRING BEER!!
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10-16-2012, 07:59 PM
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#484
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Originally Posted by Star-Man
like a DC fridge, 14ga ain't gonna cut it. So the point is to plan your DC loads and wire accordingly.
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Do many people really use DC to cool the fridge? I know we almost all use it for controls, but I haven't actually seen much about refers that use 12VDC to cool.
14 gauge is fine for the control circuits.
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10-17-2012, 12:50 PM
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#485
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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If I recall, the 3-way version of my fridge (Dometic RM2351B) had a section about 12 gauge wiring. They require 14ga for controls and 10ga minimum for power. However, they had a section about calcamacating the line losses and this size was only ok for up to 6 or 8 feet, with 8 gauge recommended for something like 12-15 foot runs. Anything less will void the mfr warranty. Anyway, I didn't want to install enough batteries to run the thing on 12 V, so I had the 2way version. Propane power is awesome... :-)
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10-17-2012, 01:03 PM
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#486
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Originally Posted by worldinchaos
Anyway, I didn't want to install enough batteries to run the thing on 12 V, so I had the 2way version. Propane power is awesome... :-)
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That's the point, isn't it? I mean, I don't know how much current a 12VDC refer would draw, but it's going to be a lot more than a 12V light bulb, isn't it?
The ONLY instance I could see where using 12VDC would make sense is when towing. The blue charge line could handle enough current from the TV to keep the refer operating, for those who are squeamish about travelling with LP keeping it chilled.
Otherwise, you would need a sea of batteries to be able to wilderness camp...
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10-17-2012, 04:52 PM
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#487
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
That's the point, isn't it? I mean, I don't know how much current a 12VDC refer would draw, but it's going to be a lot more than a 12V light bulb, isn't it?
The ONLY instance I could see where using 12VDC would make sense is when towing. The blue charge line could handle enough current from the TV to keep the refer operating, for those who are squeamish about travelling with LP keeping it chilled.
Otherwise, you would need a sea of batteries to be able to wilderness camp...
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Yeah, I imagine the only way it's remotely plausible without a giant bank would be to initially cool the fridge on propane or 110V and only switch to 12V after already being cold. Otherwise I envision stiffening the frame for the battery acid sea and lead plate forest that you would be installing.
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10-17-2012, 04:57 PM
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#488
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Rivet Master
1960 33' Custom
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,373
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Maybe off on a tangent a bit, but the Isotherm fridge in my Overlander is 12V and 110, I used 12G for both lines, as it barely uses any power its another option. I'll be installing a similar but larger unit in the Sovereign for sure.
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10-17-2012, 06:50 PM
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#489
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Tool Hoarder
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West
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
That's the point, isn't it? I mean, I don't know how much current a 12VDC refer would draw, but it's going to be a lot more than a 12V light bulb, isn't it?
The ONLY instance I could see where using 12VDC would make sense is when towing. The blue charge line could handle enough current from the TV to keep the refer operating, for those who are squeamish about travelling with LP keeping it chilled.
Otherwise, you would need a sea of batteries to be able to wilderness camp...
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Nice delayed responce Aage. For a second I had no idea what you guys were talking about but now I see.The 12 v fridge was never an option for me. LP 2 way seems to be the way to go. The 14 ga is for the led lights fans and other dc items. Nothing that will draw big power.
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12-31-2012, 05:05 PM
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#490
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Registered User
2019 27' Globetrotter
1957 16' Bubble
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 426
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Hey Marzboy.......good to see you're still working on your AS .....makes our 2.5 year effort seem normal . hey, are you going to the Modernism Week Vintage Trailer Show in Palm Springs in February? I'm producing the show, along with my friend & biz partner Christy, and would love to see you. Another bringing the '69....nor the
Bubble (she's not ready for her debut quite yet) but will probably bring another little cutie for the Retail Vendor portion.
All the best in the New Year!!
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01-04-2013, 09:22 AM
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#491
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Originally Posted by monah
Hey Marzboy.......good to see you're still working on your AS .....makes our 2.5 year effort seem normal . hey, are you going to the Modernism Week Vintage Trailer Show in Palm Springs in February? I'm producing the show, along with my friend & biz partner Christy, and would love to see you. Another bringing the '69....nor the
Bubble (she's not ready for her debut quite yet) but will probably bring another little cutie for the Retail Vendor portion.
All the best in the New Year!!
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Sounds like a socal rally...
Is there good room to camp somewhere nearby? I've always wanted to visit that event.
And Marzboy, let's see some updates
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01-04-2013, 09:37 AM
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#492
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Registered User
2019 27' Globetrotter
1957 16' Bubble
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
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Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 426
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Hi worldinchaos....most of trailers are from socal...one from Utah and a few from Oregon. You could check with happy traveler RV park in palm springs....other than that not sure of other campgrounds out state parks. It's a really fun event...hope you can visit us
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01-04-2013, 09:40 AM
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#493
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3 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1955 22' Safari
Butte
, Montana
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 145
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Peter,
I did my maiden voyage of my Globetrotter in Lake Cahuilla Campground about 5 miles south of La Quinta, CA. That was Spring of 2009. I think the rate was about $20 per night. I stayed for a week. I would recommend.
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01-04-2013, 10:22 AM
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#494
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Tool Hoarder
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 907
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Originally Posted by monah
Hey Marzboy.......good to see you're still working on your AS .....makes our 2.5 year effort seem normal . hey, are you going to the Modernism Week Vintage Trailer Show in Palm Springs in February? I'm producing the show, along with my friend & biz partner Christy, and would love to see you. Another bringing the '69....nor the
Bubble (she's not ready for her debut quite yet) but will probably bring another little cutie for the Retail Vendor portion.
All the best in the New Year!!
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Hi Monah Happy new year to you and your hubby! Lookin forward to modernism week this year, I have been recruting my clients all year. What are the exact dates? Congrats on producing this year, hope to see you there!!
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Originally Posted by worldinchaos
Sounds like a socal rally...
Is there good room to camp somewhere nearby? I've always wanted to visit that event.
And Marzboy, let's see some updates
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Ah Peter you are the Mick to my Rocky. I have been gatering appliances and parts on my down time. Picked up alot of stuff on Craigslist and Ebay. Been meaning to post my scores but holidays, kids and life.... Also how about all this rain? WTF!!!
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Originally Posted by wheelerimage
Peter,
I did my maiden voyage of my Globetrotter in Lake Cahuilla Campground about 5 miles south of La Quinta, CA. That was Spring of 2009. I think the rate was about $20 per night. I stayed for a week. I would recommend.
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Sounds kinda like a mini rally in the making (Socal Streamers, hint hint). If you guys do get togeather lets hook up for cocktails around the Vintage trailer show! Whos with me?
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01-04-2013, 12:33 PM
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Registered User
2019 27' Globetrotter
1957 16' Bubble
1957 22' Flying Cloud
Hillsboro
, Oregon
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 426
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Yay...glad we get to see you Marzboy!! , the Vintage trailer show is February 23 & 24...we'll be in the palm springs Hilton parking lot adjacent to the modernism expo booth and prefab exhibit. It's an awesome and diverse group of Vintage trailers....vendors..and a surprise our two I'm bringing my 61 Bambi named Rogue...she's been outfitted to be a mobile retail trailer and is darling!!
Love the idea of a flash rally....I'm totally up for a beverage or two.
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01-05-2013, 09:11 AM
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#496
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Tool Hoarder
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Originally Posted by monah
Yay...glad we get to see you Marzboy!! , the Vintage trailer show is February 23 & 24...we'll be in the palm springs Hilton parking lot adjacent to the modernism expo booth and prefab exhibit. It's an awesome and diverse group of Vintage trailers....vendors..and a surprise our two I'm bringing my 61 Bambi named Rogue...she's been outfitted to be a mobile retail trailer and is darling!!
Love the idea of a flash rally....I'm totally up for a beverage or two.
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Great! I will more likely be there on the 24th, but I will spread the word to my peeps. See you there, and yes beverages are a must!
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01-05-2013, 09:49 AM
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#497
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Have fun you guys! Sorry to miss it again... If you go on the Vista Del Palmas tour and meet the guys from H3K, say "Hi" from Marc and Mona... they're our college buds.
Marc
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01-13-2013, 03:13 PM
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#498
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Tool Hoarder
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Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
Have fun you guys! Sorry to miss it again... If you go on the Vista Del Palmas tour and meet the guys from H3K, say "Hi" from Marc and Mona... they're our college buds.
Marc
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Too bad you can't be there and buy me a beer Marc oh well next time...
Ok I know I haven't posted progress for a bit but I have been quietly been workin on the beast. I have aquired some appliances two of which I have been trying to work out location. I have a tankless water heater that I am thinking about placeing where the old furnace was and the new furnace next to it under the stove oven. Any comments r reccomendations are welcome
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01-13-2013, 03:51 PM
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#499
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Airstream Fanatic
1976 31' Sovereign
1959 17' Pacer
1965 26' Overlander
Bismarck
, North Dakota
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,035
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I love progress!
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Originally Posted by marzboy
Too bad you can't be there and buy me a beer Marc oh well next time...
Ok I know I haven't posted progress for a bit but I have been quietly been workin on the beast. I have aquired some appliances two of which I have been trying to work out location. I have a tankless water heater that I am thinking about placeing where the old furnace was and the new furnace next to it under the stove oven. Any comments r reccomendations are welcome
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Progress looks good! Keep going and post pictures please....I live through other people's progress because of my lack of the same
Sandy
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01-15-2013, 07:51 PM
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#500
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Tool Hoarder
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Originally Posted by ND10CentCan
Progress looks good! Keep going and post pictures please....I live through other people's progress because of my lack of the same
Sandy
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Hi Sandy! You guys are making great progress. I know how you feel though. I have been buying appliances off Craigslist and Ebay. Two big scores and Olympian Wave 8 new in box for $75 and a Magic Chef stove oven pulled out of a new Airstream for $100. It took some time but I got it done.
Got some more of the electrical roughed in. Hooked up both Lifeline grp27 Batteries to a shut off switch and finished all the connections for my tongue jack and the charge line to the tow vehicle. I am thinking about testing out the power center this weekend, little scared but it has to be done.
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