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07-04-2012, 12:45 AM
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#441
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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No more than two afternoons. And I bought the "large" size. Man... Good stuff.
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07-20-2012, 08:32 AM
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#442
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Tool Hoarder
Currently Looking...
West
, California
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 907
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Got side tracked with some other things but I have been tinkering. Finally got to the door frame. It was busted up pretty good. Seems like a really poor design, there is hardly any metal keeping the door together where the dead bolt goes thru. Going to be out of town the next two weekends. Hope to order metal and re skin the door in a couple weeks. Big Thanks to Jerry Burak at Burak Bye Products for welding that crappy frame and Greg at Inland RV for the door frame template.
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07-20-2012, 08:44 AM
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#443
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4 Rivet Member
1958 22' Flying Cloud
Folsom
, California
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 468
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So I guess that brings "closure" to that part of the project? Sorry...had to say it.
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07-20-2012, 08:55 AM
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#444
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Tool Hoarder
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West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ddstech
So I guess that brings "closure" to that part of the project? Sorry...had to say it.
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Whaaa...waaaaaa.....
Sadly I will need to wait a couple weeks to "close the door" on this phase.
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07-20-2012, 05:32 PM
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#445
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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It's an open and shut case... Seems like you found a real craftsman to work on the door. Great work!
Marc
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07-21-2012, 08:13 AM
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#446
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Tool Hoarder
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West
, California
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Ms75Argosy
It's an open and shut case... Seems like you found a real craftsman to work on the door. Great work!
Marc
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Haha! Yes I did, hes the dad of an ex girl friend. Great guy even better welder. The door was pretty busted up but it fits pretty good now. Hope to clean up the frame this next week and order the new metal to re skin it.
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07-27-2012, 08:25 PM
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#447
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(-1 Rivet_
1965 20' Globetrotter
Jackson
, California
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 175
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Door
Jav,
Any tricks you can throw out there? My door frame is busted up also.
I have some cracks where the lock actuator goes into the striker plate.
Also, my hinge is shot.
Can wait to get closure, nya nya!
(I don't think I have the skills to do what Kip did, but need to start somewhere)
Thanks in advance,
TIMK
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07-28-2012, 12:17 PM
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#448
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Aluminum Addict
1970 31' Sovereign
Rockport
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 32
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Funny how the cracks are right where the rivets mount, and why was it riveted in such a weak spot?? Removed inside sheets and insulation, dreading removing the door off the hinge but the hinge needs work anyway. My welder told me I'd need to remove the outer skin too, if I didn't want it marred in the process. Not looking forward to investing in the Olympic rivet shaver, but I suppose I'll need it in the inventory anyway.
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07-29-2012, 11:23 AM
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#449
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Tool Hoarder
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West
, California
Join Date: May 2010
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@ Tim the only trick I have for you is build a jig to match the curve of the trailers inner door frame. I wll take a couple pics of it when I get home and post them. Also find a really good welder that can tig weld aluminum.
Don't feel too bad, not very many can follow kip. When I read his threads I feel like a cave man working with sticks and stones.
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07-29-2012, 11:32 AM
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#450
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Tool Hoarder
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West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeasideSteph
Funny how the cracks are right where the rivets mount, and why was it riveted in such a weak spot?? Removed inside sheets and insulation, dreading removing the door off the hinge but the hinge needs work anyway. My welder told me I'd need to remove the outer skin too, if I didn't want it marred in the process. Not looking forward to investing in the Olympic rivet shaver, but I suppose I'll need it in the inventory anyway.
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My cracks are in the same spots the design is crap. You will need to have your trailer with your welder as they are working on the frame to get the curve of the door right. Your frame is cast aluminum which is very difficult to weld. It absorbs lots of moisture and can produce crappy weak welds. If you can't move the trailer you can make a jig out of scrap 2x4 like I have. I will post some detailed pics of the jig when I get home tomorrow. Also I have been told that more curve in the frame is better than not enough (this will make more sense when you start welding)
You are going to have to reskin the door with new aluminum because the rivet holes won't match up. Its not too expensive like around $250. Check out kips thread on door repair (arrowood)
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07-29-2012, 03:31 PM
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#451
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1 Rivet Member
1963 30' Sovereign
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 15
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marzboy - if we ever get to an Airstream gathering at the same time and place as you, boy do we owe you a few nice beverages! We are definitely following in your footsteps:
Ronco tanks - check
Sky Geeks for chemicals - check
Spare Tire Holder - check
Levelling Jacks - check
Question on installing the spare tire holder - Did you install your spare tire holder as I have roughed out in the attached photo? (Realize that some of the extra battery supports will have to go).
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07-30-2012, 05:34 PM
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#452
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Tool Hoarder
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West
, California
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 907
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lunadog
marzboy - if we ever get to an Airstream gathering at the same time and place as you, boy do we owe you a few nice beverages! We are definitely following in your footsteps:
Ronco tanks - check
Sky Geeks for chemicals - check
Spare Tire Holder - check
Levelling Jacks - check
Question on installing the spare tire holder - Did you install your spare tire holder as I have roughed out in the attached photo? (Realize that some of the extra battery supports will have to go).
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Lunadog
That is exactly where I placed mine. It is pretty nice I must say. I actually borrowed the idea from Aarowood. It helps that you dont have the subfloor in yet. I would make a template of the inner area that will be above (under the subfloor) the tire between the frame rails. I glued 1/4 " foam insulation board and then covered it with aluminum. Then I seales on all sides with Trempro.
Would love to see it in person someday!
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07-30-2012, 10:12 PM
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#453
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1 Rivet Member
1963 30' Sovereign
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 15
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Thanks for this. What Tempro product did you use to seal the wheel well cavity; those guys make a raft of sealants and barrier coats? Maybe we'll see you out-and-about next year; we're hoping to be on-the-road to celebrate the 50th anniversary of out trailer.
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07-31-2012, 10:17 AM
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#454
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Tool Hoarder
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West
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Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lunadog
Thanks for this. What Tempro product did you use to seal the wheel well cavity; those guys make a raft of sealants and barrier coats? Maybe we'll see you out-and-about next year; we're hoping to be on-the-road to celebrate the 50th anniversary of out trailer.
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I used this to seal. If you get to Southern California I will buy you a drink! Good luck on your goal!
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07-31-2012, 02:48 PM
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#455
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1 Rivet Member
1963 30' Sovereign
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 15
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Thanks for the details. Everyone gets to Southern California; suggest you keep ice and margarita mix on hand. Thanks and warm regards.
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08-01-2012, 10:49 AM
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#456
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeasideSteph
Attachment 164013
Funny how the cracks are right where the rivets mount, and why was it riveted in such a weak spot?? Removed inside sheets and insulation, dreading removing the door off the hinge but the hinge needs work anyway. My welder told me I'd need to remove the outer skin too, if I didn't want it marred in the process. Not looking forward to investing in the Olympic rivet shaver, but I suppose I'll need it in the inventory anyway.
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The shaver and the cyclo were definitely two purchases in this project where I had the rare experience of not being excited to buy a tool. It was frustrating to spend that much, but the shaver has been invaluable. It is simple, well-constructed, and long lasting. Plus, you always end up replacing 10x as many rivets as you expect.
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08-01-2012, 10:51 AM
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#457
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lunadog
Thanks for the details. Everyone gets to Southern California; suggest you keep ice and margarita mix on hand. Thanks and warm regards.
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Party at Javier's?
I'm down. Just tell me when. I'll load up the fridge with drinks and bring the trailer.
And you think I'm joking.
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08-02-2012, 05:44 AM
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#458
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Aluminum Addict
1970 31' Sovereign
Rockport
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worldinchaos
The shaver and the cyclo were definitely two purchases in this project where I had the rare experience of not being excited to buy a tool. It was frustrating to spend that much, but the shaver has been invaluable. It is simple, well-constructed, and long lasting. Plus, you always end up replacing 10x as many rivets as you expect.
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Well at least I know I'm not alone on that. Thanks for assuring me of the value, it does seem rather expensive for that lil thing. But I'd rather have a pretty door, and I do think I have more rivets to do than I want to admit. (plus I just keep telling myself most gals my age spend way more that that on shoes and purses; )
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08-03-2012, 09:35 AM
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#459
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Tool Hoarder
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West
, California
Join Date: May 2010
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@Lunadog Absolutly! Would love to have a cocktail with all yall!
@Peter Sounds like someone needs to get a SoCal rally going....
@Seasidesteph The shaver is a great tool, so is s the cyclo, I love them. The cyclo also does a great job taking the swirl marks out of the paint an my tow vehicle.
I suffered a minor set back on my door frame. While cleaning and removeing some tuff rivets I broke the frame again. Oh well back to the welder....
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08-03-2012, 10:04 AM
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#460
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,061
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To frame it mildly, he was framed, again!
That sure looks like a good item to etch, passivate and Allodine.
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