1965 Globetrotter floor on restoration

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I'll go measure in the morning. I'm scared to shop for the appliances. Kegerators and composting toilets are hard to swallow the price of.

[Becky B.]

I raised my counter in the galley to set directly under the window. That way I could fit a SMEK stove on top of my fridge. I used a Norcold 3-way 2.7 cf model N300X. The opening requires 29.75 -29.88 inches high x 20.50 -20.64 inches wide x 21.38 inches deep.

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Originally Posted by thumbelinadj

I'll go measure in the morning. I'm scared to shop for the appliances. Kegerators and composting toilets are hard to swallow the price of.

The important things in life...LOL

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Originally Posted by Becky B.

I raised my counter in the galley to set directly under the window. That way I could fit a SMEK stove on top of my fridge. I used a Norcold 3-way 2.7 cf model N300X. The opening requires 29.75 -29.88 inches high x 20.50 -20.64 inches wide x 21.38 inches deep.
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That should work out great, thanks Becky.
It looks really inviting, and is the look I may end up with. Love the dark counter and floors with light cabinets.... just beautiful.
I've seen those aluminum floor register templates at the hardware store, like the pattern. Great Idea to incorporate those into the trailer.



Do you like the Norcold? I am on the fence about a Dometic RM2451.
Does the Norcold have an auto re-light if pilot goes out?

How do you vent for the stove? or do you care

Thanks

TIMK

[Swimhard4]

Hi, I am so excited we finaly have the globetrotter here! Now the fun starts! But first, Where should I start? We replaced the axel and brakes along with tires! ( so we could transport safely! Little did we know that as soon as we got on the Hwy the porton of the underbelly fell partly Off leaving a cloud of rodant poop dust cloud behind!) So I intend to take everything out, redo the floors and was thinking of taking the interior walls down to replace the insulation. My question is what should I do first? Also how do you get the rivits out? I think I will need to redo all the electric and possible all plumbing. ANY Advice would be welcome!!

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Wow! Love to help you anytime. Congratulations

[Becky B.]

Originally Posted by REDSLED88

That should work out great, thanks Becky.
It looks really inviting, and is the look I may end up with. Love the dark counter and floors with light cabinets.... just beautiful.
I've seen those aluminum floor register templates at the hardware store, like the pattern. Great Idea to incorporate those into the trailer.



Do you like the Norcold? I am on the fence about a Dometic RM2451.
Does the Norcold have an auto re-light if pilot goes out?

How do you vent for the stove? or do you care

Thanks

TIMK

Hi Tim,

I like the Norcold. I haven't had the pilot blow out (that I know of) & took her about 3,000 miles this winter and 2,000 miles last winter with no issues with the fridge.

As far as the stove vent.....it doesn't exist. I agonized about putting one in, but as some really smart people on this forum pointed out, the space is so small (even in a Globe Trotter), all you have to do is open the window & the fan in the roof & you basically have an exhaust fan.

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Tim- do you still need the measurements from my cabinetry? Dena

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Originally Posted by Swimhard4

Hi, I am so excited we finaly have the globetrotter here! Now the fun starts! But first, Where should I start? We replaced the axel and brakes along with tires! ( so we could transport safely! Little did we know that as soon as we got on the Hwy the porton of the underbelly fell partly Off leaving a cloud of rodant poop dust cloud behind!) So I intend to take everything out, redo the floors and was thinking of taking the interior walls down to replace the insulation. My question is what should I do first? Also how do you get the rivits out? I think I will need to redo all the electric and possible all plumbing. ANY Advice would be welcome!!

Swimhard,
I would start with getting rid of the belly pan area. 1 it's the nastiest part I found, so just get it over with, 2 you can get a good look at if you need to replace some things, or more than you originally thought ( maybe plumbing and/or wiring).
Also get a good look at removing the rivets and not just clear cutting everything out, that way when putting in the new belly pan you will be able to line up to something.
Also, take ALOT of pictures, document, document document....
This way you don't forget how to go back.

I just cut everything out, and now I have to fab and scab back to the old area to make it fit. I'll get it, but a little more work.

I kinda just did the nasty first... Belly Pan, then interior, then insulation between outer and inner skins, and dumped everything.
Now that it's clear I have a blank slate to work with.

I'll been starting from the Top down after that. Working on all my leaks.
Once I get all my roof vents in, and leaks sealed I will then, and only then work on the floor. No reason working on the floor until I have all leaks repaired, otherwise it will ruin my new floor.

From there you just have to take every project in it's logical order....
Based on $, time, and tools available.

Make sense?

TIMK

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Originally Posted by thumbelinadj

Tim- do you still need the measurements from my cabinetry? Dena

No, I think were good,
Thx

TIMK

[thumbelinadj]

Keep good photos of the belly pan and wheel wells and keep parts for templates

[Swimhard4]

Thank Y'all for all your advice! Boy do I need it!������

[thumbelinadj]

Everyone here on the forum loves to see your progress. Happy to help. I have some lessons learned recently I am not proud of but hey that is learning.

[Swimhard4]

Where did you buy the aluminum? How much and what lengths did you order? I am going to start with the belly pan first�� when should I do the polishing? I really can't wait to see it shiny! I inherited this from my dad and it had been in a pasture for 20 years! Total gut!

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Originally Posted by Swimhard4

Where did you buy the aluminum? How much and what lengths did you order? I am going to start with the belly pan first�� when should I do the polishing? I really can't wait to see it shiny! I inherited this from my dad and it had been in a pasture for 20 years! Total gut!

I purchased my aluminum through Aircraft spruce I believe, or another aluminum sheet vendor. I started with 1 sheet of 4'x12' 2024T3 x .032.
I bought it by the sheet, and get it rolled. They'll roll it in a 1'x1'x4' tall box... ships easier/cheaper.

This was just to make my patches, and replace my corner panel, and fix my door. I also used whatever scraps I had over, little pieces, for practicing riveting in a vice or with a friend. That was enough to get me started on some projects until I found out how much I would really need for the belly. I found my self practicing alot more, especially when changing rivets sizes (5/32" to 1/8").

I will be doing the belly last, and I mean very last, as there are so many things that will have to happen before I go back with one, that it doesn't matter for me to even have one yet. I probably will even camp for a year or two until I do it.

As for belly, I'll probably be going with some 5052H3 x .040 or .032, or some cheaper material. 2024T3 is more expensive, and not needed for under the trailer. It's not like I'll be polishing it, so no alclad is needed.

If your replacing your floor, then you definitely want to wait until your floor is replaced before you re-install the belly. Makes things much easier
The things that I did, as well as many others here, begin here.
So I would start a thread. That allows many others to chime into your progress, as well as answer your questions, without you having to search for every little item that you need help with.
Also, start a documentation of sorts on all your measurements, equipment needs, types of materials, tools, and possibly logical steps towards your goals.

And definitely pictures, pictures, pictures. We love them, plus they help us answer your questions.

I apologize if you have already started a thread, as I've been following others, and have not had time to add to my subscriptions.

As for polishing, I started doing the top when I was working on the top.
I had scaffolding to replace my escape hatch, and while I was at it decided to get some polishing done. Mind you I have 60+ hours on the roof, and it doesn't look like much, but it's a start on the areas I won't be able to get to for a while. I just did a first cut anyways to help get it down to a better sheen.

I've heard that a lot of restorers like to polish first because it's such a mess, but most of us don't have the time, as we have more important matters to attend to.

I'll polish my lower half after I've completed most of my repairs, and/or depending on how much my wife wants it done (LOL)


Good Luck,

TIMK

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Well, just in case anyone cares, the reason I had to take 2 years off is because I purchased a new home. After about a year I discovered a sewage leak, which required replacing my entire sewer line. So While I was at it, I might as well get things tidy'd up a bit.

As promised to Shelly, here are some pictures of my banana wraps, repaired using a 12# shotput, and then a quick polish. Not perfect, but good enough for me.

[thumbelinadj]

I love your shot put results!! So lucky for us to be timed about the same stage!!!

What are you doing about the back end wraps? We had to scrap the navy guy attempt at it. English wheel was a DISASTER.

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Originally Posted by thumbelinadj

I love your shot put results!! So lucky for us to be timed about the same stage!!!

What are you doing about the back end wraps? We had to scrap the navy guy attempt at it. English wheel was a DISASTER.Attachment 233405

Well, I haven't really thought about that.
I just cut out my old belly pan, leaving a 12"-14" tail that hangs down under the trailer. Once I finish the floor, I'll tie some scrap pieces to bring it back under far enough to secure. Basically I left the perimeter dangling, so I'm hoping it wont be that bad. I would think those would actually be kind of a bugger. Good luck to you, a better person than I am for the attempt.

I still applaud anyone for a shell OFF restoration... that's a huge endeavour.

Have you tried searching the forums? I suppose you have, but maybe Frank at FTW could help, or Kip. How about Colin Hyde, has he chimed in?

Shelly, if you want I can take some pics of mine as they are and post them, maybe they will give you some insight/inspiration.

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Been a while, wanted to show the latest

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Finally got it in, used 12-24 stainless panhead machine screws and stainless nylock nuts, they seemed to fit the best. Hooked it up to battery just to check......yes, it works!!!!