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bedfords · 01-17-2009, 05:09 PM

OK so it has been a while but things are moving along around here. I borrowed a pressure washer to clean the underside. I had so much fun I washed the inside as well. The smell is a little better. I am still fearing the interior walls will need to come down and replace insulation. But for now I am focused on frame repair. Most all of the outriggers are rusted on the bottom which leads to a problem of what is supporting the walls and roof? Not much. The floor is frowning. I put a 4' level across the floor to see how bad a drop it is. There is 1/2" to 3/4" drop from the center to the exterior wall. So what to do? I happen to have 9 outriggers laying around that will be welded in. I am also thinking of using angle iron welding to the top flange of the existing outriggers, then drop down at an angle and attach to the frame? Oh and before adding any new support I will level the frame and then lift and support the edges. I might go as far as lifting the edges more than level and then weld in new riggers and angle. Any words of wisdom? So tomorrows plan is to get everything level and prep-ed for welding.

bedfords · 01-17-2009, 05:26 PM

I am needing a little help with posting some items on the Air Classifieds.
I have some things that I have been holding onto just incase. I am seeing a large putchase of two axils in the near future and thought maybe I could help some of you and get a little help in return. I have the following items from a 1972 Overlander that I am planning on posting on the classifieds but have no idea what a reasonalbe price would be. So here you go.
I have pictures of everything. Keep in mind this stuff is all used.

Black Water Tank 20 gal
Fresh Water Tank45 gal
Battery Storage complete w/Frame
Kitchen Sink
complete sky light
Front Single Pane Window43x24
Small low window w/molding21X10
Large Low window w/molding33x10
Compartment Door w/Frame20X14.5
Door Eye Brow
Back flat window w/screen frame43x24
Side curved window w/screen frame30.5x22.53
Screen Frames30.5x22.5c
omplete back bath
Frig Vent cover
Frig Vent Frame
Back Lights w/interior covers
Range Vent Cover
Door Light cover
Back interior Cap
Front Interior Cap
Rear Exterior Panelsx5
Front Exterior Panelsx4
Back storage cover
Interior cover plates
Front reading lights
Wide exterior molding

bedfords · 01-17-2009, 05:39 PM

I am not looking to get rich just help pay for some repairs.

bedfords · 02-11-2009, 10:18 PM

I am not moving forward as fast as I would like. But that is OK I am not in a big rush. I didn't get any feed back on my approach to the bow on the edges of the trailer. Has anyone had to beef up the outriggers or will the replacements everything level?

Zeppelinium · 02-11-2009, 10:45 PM

You can buy outriggers from Out of Doors Mart for about $15 each. I've got a box of them out at the Safari, and for the life of me I can't remember if the outer end of then has the curve. I think they do. But I won't be back at the Safari for a week.

Zep

imeynstein · 02-11-2009, 10:47 PM

Hey!! I am interested in the following:--freshwater and blackwater tank--freshwater pump if you have them...please let me know!!!

imeynstein · 02-11-2009, 10:51 PM

YIKES!!! The frame is SCARY as I may have to replace mine during my renovation process...Please post photos and 'how to's' as I will need step by step instructions!! My husband will NOT be helping me as he made it CLEAR that my AS is MY project, so keep any photos and instructions available!!! THANKS!!!

bedfords · 02-12-2009, 06:28 AM

Hey!! I am interested in the following:--freshwater and black water tank--freshwater pump if you have them...please let me know!!!
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imeynstein

The first thing to make sure is will the tanks work for you. I am not sure personally but someone out there will know. I can tell you that the water tanks on my 72 and 75 are the same. The black water tanks are not. The tank in questions comes out of a rear bath configuration. Let me know if they will work. If so I am heading to Oklahoma mid April I would be able to get them at least that far. I don't have a water pump. They aren't all that pricey. I would suggest going new.

bedfords · 02-12-2009, 06:34 AM

Hey Zep
Do you have any solid outriggers that go next to the wheels? That type is the ones I am missing. I am needing four.
I have spent some time just rolling around under there and it seams to me once I get these guys replaced I am good to go on putting things back together. I am holding my breath on taking the lowest section of interior skin off so I can replace wall to floor to frame bolts and inspect the insulation.

bedfords · 02-12-2009, 06:47 AM

What if I didn't removed the originals but welded new outriggers with the opposite flanges to the old and the new to the frame? So at each existing outrigger there would be two side by side? Am I making any sense?

The attached pic show the typical condition of all the outriggers. the lower portion is rusted the upper is still in good condition.

Zeppelinium · 02-12-2009, 06:57 AM

That's exactly what I did on the Safari, reversed the outriggers to get the flanges on the other side. I don't think that works on the stair outriggers and the ones next to the wheels, but it does everywhere else.

I didn't buy any of the solid ones. I don't know if Out of Doors Mart sells them. It's 16-gauge steel. I looked around for a shop that uses that stuff and found that it's hard to find. I think there is a yard art guy in Larkspur who cuts out circles and birds and stuff who uses it. I wonder if the steel fabricator shop in Louviers on highway 85 could fabricate some for you?

Zep

bedfords · 02-12-2009, 07:27 AM

I have a couple of contractor friends that have large sheet metal shops that can fab the solid ones for me. I just thought you might have some laying around. I will ask those guys and see if they can't do it. I also saved a piece of cross frame from I can cut outriggers out of it. I can only get two out of one piece. It seems a waste. How is the Safari coming?

Aerowood · 02-12-2009, 09:36 AM

How about a trade. Do you have an exterior stove vent like the picture. I'll make you the outriggers for the vent.

bedfords · 02-12-2009, 04:53 PM

Aerowood

I do have a stove vent like that one and it has your name on it.

Aerowood · 02-13-2009, 07:12 AM

Blast me some dimensions or a part. How many do you need? Once I set up it's just as easy to make a bunch. The ones without the holes would be super easy. Holes would be a pain as I don't have a strip-it punch.

imeynstein · 02-14-2009, 01:25 AM

Hey, please send the black water tank as my husband may be able to 'make it work' on our AS...I think my black water tank is cracked. I have not removed the floor in our rear bath yet, but considering that I did have a major leak in the past as well as now having odor issues--I feel as though this may be the problem---plus I have rear end separation issues...Now it is up to me to do everything as my husband tells me that my beloved AS is MY PROJECT...This means I have to do everything on my own, and if I am successful--then he gets to reap the rewards of my blood, sweat, and tears....I am hoping for the best outcome...Wish me luck!!!

BIGED52 · 02-14-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by imeynstein

Hey, please send the black water tank as my husband may be able to 'make it work' on our AS...I think my black water tank is cracked. I have not removed the floor in our rear bath yet, but considering that I did have a major leak in the past as well as now having odor issues--I feel as though this may be the problem---plus I have rear end separation issues...Now it is up to me to do everything as my husband tells me that my beloved AS is MY PROJECT...This means I have to do everything on my own, and if I am successful--then he gets to reap the rewards of my blood, sweat, and tears....I am hoping for the best outcome...Wish me luck!!!

I am wishing you luck!!! But if he doesn't help on the refurb how much do you get to charge him to go camping with you? Ed

Zeppelinium · 02-14-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imeynstein

Hey, please send the black water tank as my husband may be able to 'make it work' on our AS...I think my black water tank is cracked. I have not removed the floor in our rear bath yet, but considering that I did have a major leak in the past as well as now having odor issues--I feel as though this may be the problem---plus I have rear end separation issues...Now it is up to me to do everything as my husband tells me that my beloved AS is MY PROJECT...This means I have to do everything on my own, and if I am successful--then he gets to reap the rewards of my blood, sweat, and tears....I am hoping for the best outcome...Wish me luck!!!

I fixed my black tank (actually white-ish polyethylene) with Scotch Weld.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/show...8&postcount=17

There are a lot of other interesting posts in that thread.

Zep

bedfords · 02-18-2009, 07:38 PM

This is a pic of a standard Battery compartment that has been removed.
Jfuller678 I hope this is what you are looking for.

bedfords · 02-23-2009, 10:24 PM

I finally had a few seconds with the obsession Sunday. I managed to loosen the axles (there was some of belly pan stuck between the frame and the axle). I also made my first pass at leveling the frame. I am supporting the frame at 9 different points. It can be tiering making small adjustment and crawling out from under and checking the levels, crawling back under and adjusting, crawling out and checking, crawling back under, crawling out, crawling, crawling, crawling. I'm a little soar. I might have to get some help.

I have posted a quick sketch of a typical solid left handed outrigger.