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04-20-2018, 09:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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72 Ambassador renovation
my wife and I recently bought a 1972 ambassador. she has been wanting an airstream for a long time. over the last 5 years she has been sending me classifieds for ones all over the country. there was no way I was going to drive a long distance to look at something that might not be able to be towed back home. finally I got one from her that was only about 100 miles away and the price was right. we drove out to look at it. it was towable and the outside was in decent shape. our plan was to totally gut it and start from scratch so were not that concerned about the condition of the interior. we made an offer and it was accepted so we hooked it up and towed it home. we put our vw Westphalia up for sale as this would be our budget for the rehab. it sold fast and now the fun begins. I have been using this forum as a resource for the rehab since I have never worked on or owned an airstream. it is such a great resource that I have become a member and will share my progress. I'm sure I will get some good feedback and advice as I go through the process
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04-20-2018, 09:29 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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interior
interior shots
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04-20-2018, 09:32 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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gutted
gutted
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04-20-2018, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master 
1973 21' Globetrotter
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,162
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Welcome to the Forums! Looks like y'all are going full speed ahead!
good luck!
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04-20-2018, 03:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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totally gutted
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04-21-2018, 07:57 AM
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Rivet Master 
1975 Argosy 28
Springville
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 836
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Your frame looks great! Doesn't seem like it needs repairs. A good sanding and a coat of paint, unless your changing the layout and adding tanks .....
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04-21-2018, 08:18 AM
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Rivet Master 

1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,896
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Welcome! It's a journey...
Looks like from the exterior pics that your clear coat is failing. We took ours off, and now people think we polished. Taking off the clear coat definitely improved the look of the trailer. It's a job, but not the worst that you will do. We did use aircraft stripper after trying all kinds of others with no results.
Good luck and keep us all posted!
Kay
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04-21-2018, 07:11 PM
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Moderator

1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,920
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Good luck and try not to get discouraged as you move forward. I've found the 'gutting' (I find that term distasteful since it invokes images of a crowbar, sledgehammer and sawzal) to be fast. Rebuilding can be rewarding if it's done in small project steps, like eating an elephant in measured bites. Research what others have done, 'I have a better idea' can go very, very wrong in some cases.
Ambassadors are cool sized trailers!
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04-21-2018, 08:48 PM
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Rivet Master 

1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,987
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A lot of the interior cabinetry looks similar to my 75 Overlander. It must have been a bunch of work to remove the subfloor with the body still on. Replacing the subfloor with the body on is also a chore, but it can be done.
I would like to follow along with your project. You have a great start.
David
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04-22-2018, 05:33 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1956 22' Safari
1962 28' Ambassador
Williston
, Vermont
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 463
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Welcome to the forums. Besides being a historical resource for what's been done, it's a great place to ask questions and get answers from folks that have been through it already. They have helped me tremendously. My trailer looks a lot like your's, except my frame does need a bunch of work.
Mark
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04-22-2018, 07:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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cleaning up windows is a pain. I have some heavy pitting. started with a 600 wet sand then switched to 400. still have it and I don't want to go to crazy with the sand paper. what has worked best?
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04-22-2018, 07:30 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbj216
A lot of the interior cabinetry looks similar to my 75 Overlander. It must have been a bunch of work to remove the subfloor with the body still on. Replacing the subfloor with the body on is also a chore, but it can be done.
I would like to follow along with your project. You have a great start.
David
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it was so rotted it basically crumbled out.
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04-23-2018, 07:49 PM
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Rivet Master 

1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,987
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I can imagine. The rear of my trailer was the same way. When the subfloor rots, the joint between the body and the frame gets real loose as you can imagine. As they say here, the body holds the frame up, and the frame holds the body up. The subfloor is that strength adding member between the two. You need all three for maximum strength.
I've had reasonable success with cast and extruded members with a soft wire brush, then polish with wet sandpaper. Scotchbrite is another effective way to get the dirt and oxide off. Not on the skins, but on the cast and extruded members like the door frame, door sill, window frames and the like.
David
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04-25-2018, 07:32 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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old gasket. what did they use at the butt joint?
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05-03-2018, 12:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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do these rivets serve a purpose
I have some pop rivets in the window jambs that don't seem to have a purpose. any ideas?
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05-03-2018, 03:51 PM
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Rivet Master 
1971 21' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,440
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My 71 GT had some mystery rivets in the window frame too, I just shot some countersunk soft rivets in them.
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05-07-2018, 09:41 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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new axles installed. anybody know the recommended torque setting for mounting hardware? not sure why my photo is upside down
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05-07-2018, 07:21 PM
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Rivet Master 

1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,987
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The new axles are easier to install with the trailer upside down. That's the way the Airstream factory does it.
Nice you new axles fit up okay. Did you have to drill new bolt holes?
What starting angle did you specify for your axles?
I would suggest you use the torque values for the size bolts you are using. Maybe they are 5/8" grade 8 bolts. Then 160 ft lbs sounds right.
Here is a table of recommended bolt torques for various size fasteners:
https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...ed-Torque.aspx
David
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05-07-2018, 08:22 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1972 29' Ambassador
saint louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 127
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thanks. that's what I needed. I had to widen for the axle and elongate the holes a little for the bolts. I used a grinder on the frame and a file for the bolt holes. It went a lot smoother than I had expected. got the axles from inland and went with their recommendation on angle. I would imagine whatever is standard
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05-08-2018, 06:55 PM
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Rivet Master 

1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,987
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Glad your axle install went smoooothly. I hope mine goes as well. I'm quite a ways from lifting up the axles. I gotta finish my bathroom, test the plumbing and new tanks, then insulate beneath, new belly pan, and then axles.
Makes me tired just thinking about it.
David
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