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08-18-2017, 02:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1978 31' Sovereign
1977 Argosy 28
1979 30' Argosy
Tate
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 19
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Would you consider buying an Airstream with hail damage?
Would you consider buying an Airstream with hail damage?
Reason I ask is Im considering buying 1 or 2 for resale. I can buy them from the insurance company who has totalled them because of hail dents.
When an insurance company "totals" a vehicle, it is a financial decision, not a safety decision.
So, assuming everything else on the trailer is in great working order, would you buy say a $75,000 Airstream (value before hail damage) for $40k?
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08-18-2017, 03:33 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Hi
As they say "that depends". There's damage that just makes things look ugly. There's damage that creates (or might create) leaks. There's damage that interferes with the function of systems (like ducted AC) or might do so. Almost any exterior damage will impact the insulation. That will mess with AC and heat in extreme temperatures. Thats a lot of unknowns and a lot of variables ....
Bob
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08-18-2017, 03:58 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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I bought my 2012 25fb from copart a year or so ago. It has light hail damage and was really clean and have been really happy with it.Remember they are salvage title so the title has to be converted to rebuilt. Also banks probably won't loan a lot on rebuilt title. I got mine at a good deal but 90% of airstreams on copart and iaai bring way to much in my opinion you just got to get lucky to get a good deal. I'm in the 18 wheeler salvage business and I buy lots of trucks from copart and iaai.They always sell the campers right after the trucks so I always watch them sell. There was an 06 25ft RB with light hail damage that sold today on copart and after fees was pushing 20K. They just really seem to be going through the roof in price here lately.
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08-18-2017, 03:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Is it insurable? Most insurance will not cover a trailer with a salvage title or extensive preexisting damage.
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08-18-2017, 04:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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I got full coverage on mine with out a problem.
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08-18-2017, 04:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jake74
I got full coverage on mine with out a problem.
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Lucky you. Who with?
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Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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08-18-2017, 04:41 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Lucky you. Who with?
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ALFA insurance here in Alabama. They insured a few rebuilt vehicles for me all with full coverage. They also insure my house. There a great company and have always payed any claim I've ever had within a few days with no run around.
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08-18-2017, 05:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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No.
I need to feel proud of my toys.
I'd always be looking at others, wishing mine was perfect.
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08-18-2017, 08:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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If the title is good, not a salvage title, and the price s right l would consider it.
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08-18-2017, 08:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 30' Safari
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 385
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We looked at two when purchasing ours-- ended up walking away from the rebuilt title one. Another member on here told me, "You can fix anything on an Airstream--except the title.
My biggest concern was that I couldn't know for sure that all it was was hail damage. The unknowns weren't worth the small savings of buying a trailer with title issues. But there's a perfect (enough) unit for everyone, if you feel good about it, go for it and don't look back. Better than wondering about it years from now.
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08-18-2017, 11:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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I went and looked at mine in person at the salvage pool before purchase. I also bought it directly from the auction not through a middle man that will mark it way up. I saved about 20K over a comparable perfect used one. I don't like the small hail dings but for the price I can live with it. I've pulled it probably 5,000 miles since I've owed it and can't complain. Damage was mostly the front of roof and few dings on the side. Here is a pic of mine but dings are hard to see in pics.
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08-19-2017, 12:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,987
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It depends upon the purpose. IF it were for a construction-site office...SURE! But you can probably buy a BRAND NEW SOB for less...and get full depreciation...so the question is...WHY would you do that?
If it were for my personal use... Unless I were willing to live with the ugliness or fix it myself...NO.
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08-19-2017, 03:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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I probably would assuming the damage does not look like it hurt the integrity of the outer shell.
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08-19-2017, 06:31 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 25' Safari
1971 27' Overlander
1957 22' Caravanner
Jourdanton
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 215
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Yes, if it doesn't leak and has the features I want and the price is right.
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08-19-2017, 11:28 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.7 Metre
1971 27' Overlander
1973 31' Sovereign
Griffin
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 166
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I would say no... but some of the places I want to go have hail storms often...
so... HAIL YES... but it would have to be cheap!
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08-19-2017, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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Before I'd buy a newer Airstream with hail damage I'd buy a used one in near perfect condition for even less. There are a lot of used Airstreams out there in great condition. I couldn't stand something as nice as an Airstream all pock marked up. If the only way you can own a newer Airstream is to buy one so damaged it needs a salvage title, I'd be looking at something else.
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08-19-2017, 12:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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Dinged airstreams need love too. I would not buy one that looks like it had a sledge hammer took to it. The little dings on the right side of mine almost blend in with the rivet indentations. It would cost way to much to fix. Upside is you don't have to worry bout what off the beaten path you take it cause the worry of scuffing it up is gone lol.
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08-19-2017, 12:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 Argosy 28
Euless
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 338
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I looked at some hail damaged Airstreams before I bought my first one and have also looked at cars with salvage titles. In every case my insurer told me in Texas you can only get liability insurance with a salvage title. Your state may be different.
You can buy an old Airstream with raccoons living in it, restore it and insure it for $50K and buy a fairly new one with hail damage and a salvage title, restore it, and it is still considered scrap metal.
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1977 Argosy 28 Center Bath (CA made) and 2015 Ford F250 6.7 diesel. Used to own 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 and 2013 Toyota Tundra
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08-19-2017, 12:47 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2023 30' Flying Cloud
Garden City
, Alabama
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvb
I looked at some hail damaged Airstreams before I bought my first one and have also looked at cars with salvage titles. In every case my insurer told me in Texas you can only get liability insurance with a salvage title. Your state may be different.
You can buy an old Airstream with raccoons living in it, restore it and insure it for $50K and buy a fairly new one with hail damage and a salvage title, restore it, and it is still considered scrap metal.
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Alabama must be different. I have full coverage. But it doesn't cover the hail damage that's already there but will cover hail damage to the other panels that are not damaged or any other damage. My truck insurance covers the collision.
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08-19-2017, 02:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 25' FB International
2010 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari SS SE
Toano
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 20
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No, I wouldn't buy an Airstream with hail damage. I'm a type A sorta fella and could never get over the fact that my AS has lots of little dents.
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