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Old 11-08-2016, 10:58 PM   #1
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Question Thoughts on the new ducted air?

Hi everyone!

I'm in the market for a 2016 or 2017 (International Serenity 25FB) and I remember seeing some warnings about buying a newer model because the ducting is prone to leaks.

Can anyone elaborate on that for me, or share your experience?

Thanks so much!
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:31 AM   #2
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Never heard of "leaks". We are on our second unit with the ducted air. Works fine, quite and distributes the air throughout the trailer.

However, I did put in the old style vents in three places in the front of our trailer as it did not cool down as well as the rear bedroom area. Seems to have done the trick.

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Old 11-09-2016, 05:01 AM   #3
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We love the ducted AC Works great, much better air distribution and quieter. Gives a cleaner look to the interior. Cant see how this system would promote leaks.
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Old 11-09-2016, 05:05 AM   #4
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Hi everyone!

I'm in the market for a 2016 or 2017 (International Serenity 25FB) and I remember seeing some warnings about buying a newer model because the ducting is prone to leaks.

Can anyone elaborate on that for me, or share your experience?

Thanks so much!
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What kind of "leaks" are you referring to? And do you have any links to these warnings? If we can see what you saw, we might be able to better answer your question.
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Old 11-09-2016, 05:28 AM   #5
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I love the ducted air. It's so much quieter, seems to distribute the air well and looks very sleek. I ran the air conditioning in some pretty high temperatures this summer and never had a leak
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:17 AM   #6
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Love the mechanics and the aesthetics of the ducted air systems. Have never heard of any problems.
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Old 11-09-2016, 07:00 AM   #7
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Bought used 2015 27 FB just to get the ducted air. That is the first year for it. No leaks yet but will let you know if they occur. Would not worry about it. I am sure AS tested it in many proto- types before going forward to full production. It is very quiet Wife loves it over our old SOB.
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Old 11-09-2016, 08:18 AM   #8
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Got a '15. It works.

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Old 11-09-2016, 08:23 AM   #9
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

We have a 2015 Flying Cloud 25FB which we have had for a little over two years. We have over 200 nights in her and have towed her over 25,000 miles. We have not had any leaks. The ducted a/c vents do the job very well and are much quieter that the ceiling unit. This is our third Airstream, and we are very familiar with the rather loud ceiling units.

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Old 11-09-2016, 09:19 AM   #10
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We just sold our 2010 25FB Serenity and got a 2016 26U. The ducted air is so beyond superior. The rig cools down quicker AND you can actually carry on a conversation.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:34 AM   #11
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We have a 2016 -19 flying cloud with ducted heat/heat pump

We had never heard it run before we purchased and the first night we turned on the heat,,we were in for a big surprise...the vents were quiet but the heat pump itself is very loud,,,,,unfortunately we will not be using it in the middle of the night ,,,too loud,,bring lots of blankets or turn on the furnace
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:18 PM   #12
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We just bought a 2017 International 23FB that has the ducted air. We visited the Hershey show focused on buying a 22 Bambi, but after touring the Bambi and then walking into a 23FB, we immediately noticed how much quieter it was. Huge difference - to me st least.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:00 PM   #13
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Leaks

Just did the factory tour yesterday. All Airstreams are pressure water tested for 45 min with someone inside and before the interior is installed. We have a 2015 FC with ducted air and have had no issues other than a defective sail switch on the furnace which is why we were at the factory.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:27 PM   #14
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I have a '16 FC 26U and the ducting is wonderful, great improvement.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:02 PM   #15
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I have not had a trailer without ducted air, so I can't compare to non ducted. We have a 26u and the only problem we have had is the grills falling off. If you heat up the clips and spread them out a little they will snap in and stay. We had two openings that had little tabs on the openings and the vents could not snap in all the way. Modified the grills for clearance and have had no grills fall off for some time. It helps to get a plastic/nylon body tool to push the grills into the ceiling. If you just push on the outer rotating part, they might not go all the way in.
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:39 PM   #16
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Welcome to the fourm.
What kind of "leaks" are you referring to? And do you have any links to these warnings? If we can see what you saw, we might be able to better answer your question.
I wasn't able to find where I read a warning about ducting leaks (and I couldn't remember if there were any details or it was more general), which is why I asked, hoping that if it was someone on the forum they'd chime in.

Thanks!
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Old 11-09-2016, 04:43 PM   #17
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Thank you!

Thank you everyone so much for your quick and helpful responses!

I wanted to be sure I did my due diligence in asking around and I'm very pleased to hear the ducting has been working so well for everyone.
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Old 11-09-2016, 06:06 PM   #18
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The ducted air was one of the biggest things that drove me to get a newer model AS... so it's really nice to hear that it's such a meaningful upgrade.

I've been feeling pretty lucky. We got a 25FB TWIN unit, and I believe that 2016 was the first year they made INTERNATIONALs in that configuration? (which is what we wanted..) True?
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... I remember seeing some warnings about buying a newer model because the ducting is prone to leaks.
No issues with leaks but the ducted air meant that the old crank up antenna had to go. The new style looks great but doesn't perform. Result is pixilated pictures under anything but ideal broadcast conditions. Thread hijack over
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Old 11-09-2016, 09:48 PM   #20
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Greetings,
I believe the "leak" refers to an air leak.

That is, the return air to the AC/Heat system on our 2015 FC 28 ft. is thru two vents mid-ship. The space between these two return air vents suck air from between the inside and outside skins and the intake opening into the air conditioning unit proper.

Removing these two vent covers to access the filter material we noticed that the interior of the return area contains several wire bundles and other such conections like power to the AC/Heat unit and a RJ11c plug to the thermostat used for remote automatic start of the generator set.

But the leak concern was that air was being pulled into the AC air intake from the area around the return vents and NOT thru the vent covers.

Taking a cheap sun shade product for blocking sun off of vehicle dashboards and cutting is down to fit in this space around the return air and blocking air from coming from anywhere besides the two return air filter covers to the intake air port improved the air circulation out of the air registers along the ceiling considerably.

If you are taking delivery on a new AS, be sure the dealer checks that the Domestic AC/Heatpump units return air area is properly installed and not just sucking return air from just anywhere.

There have been others that have had this issue and a search for "air leaks" should put you on the thread.

All rhe best.
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