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Old 08-16-2016, 02:30 PM   #21
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Very good information being shared. Mostly positive and some good warnings and tips.

Seems we need to exit our comfort zones sometimes and get a little more modern.

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Old 08-16-2016, 02:44 PM   #22
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I'll pose this as a question as much as a comment, to see if my thinking is correct on this. My assumption is that when I pay using PayPal, the seller does not receive information regarding my credit card. So if I buy something from a seller I am not familiar with, I would prefer to use PayPal. PayPal already knows my credit card number, so I'm not risking anything new by using PayPal to buy something. But if I give my credit card number to someone new, then that puts my credit card at risk in one more place.

Another thing I just found out. If you set up an automatic renewal with your credit card, you can't cancel it. You have to get the seller to cancel it. Of course, you can cancel your card, which cancels the automatic payment, but that is a hassle. if you have an automatic renewal on PayPal, and want to stop the payment, you just inform PayPal that you want it stopped and it is stopped. I like that, and have never understood why you can't do that with a credit card automatic payment.
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Old 08-16-2016, 02:45 PM   #23
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I have used paypal for many buying/selling transactions and the fees are high, customer service is nill.
I had a bad experience with their customer service earlier this spring. My computer anti-virus was set up for automatic renewal and paypal was set to pull directly out of a special internet purchase only account I have set up. Well I did not have enough in the account to cover the anti-virus purchase (my fault) and it started to hit the bank account - over draft fees......
I called paypal and they would not stop the transaction and charge it to my credit card instead. It took over a week to get this straightened out and I got smacked with a bunch of fees.....
I hate paypal......but for the most part it works.
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:29 PM   #24
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I have recently used PayPal when selling a BMW car and a BMW motorcycle out of state. In both cases, I never met the seller. I called PayPal to find out what I needed to do to protect myself. I was told to make sure that the delivery address that the transporter had was the same address on the PayPal account. In both cases, I transferred the money from my PayPal account to my bank account before I released the car and bike. I also charged the buyer the PayPal fee. It's the safest way I know of to make a sale. One of the buyers did not have a PayPal account and I told him I would wait until he set one up and it was verified by PayPal.

The buyer of the car had a pre-buy inspection done by a national company that does them and the bike buyer just relied on pictures that I sent him.
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:15 PM   #25
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I have bought and sold items for up to $2,200 on Ebay over the last 18 years using Paypal both in the US and overseas, and still do. My only recommendation is if you are selling something, only do so in a manner where you can document that it was delivered. Paypal will side with the buyer if they claim it wasn't and if you have no delivery confirmation. They will pull the funds back from your account or credit card with no recourse.

My learning experience was fortunately not too expensive. I sold several small items to one buyer over about a week and mailed each in an envelope with stamps as sold. The buyer upon receiving the first bought several more then immediately claimed he had not received any. He did not file a claim with Ebay but directly with Paypal. Even though the claim was made the day of purchase, ie. no way to deliver the item, Paypal pulled the funds and would not look at the details of transaction because USPS could not document delivery. Paypal always backs the buyer! I now mail items that would only require one stamp with delivery confirmation which ups shipping cost to about $2.50

Paypal fees for sales have gone up, but it is a convenient way to do postage and I have sent funds between family members and also to the Vintage Airstream Club with no charges.
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Old 08-16-2016, 08:28 PM   #26
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I had good luck with Paypal also both in selling and buying. At one time I did buy something that the seller never delivered on. Paypal attempted to contact the seller. When they got no response within 2 weeks, they credited me back the purchase.

I do use Paypal's credit account for larger purchases, which used to be named "Bill Me Later". Most of my purchases are done through that service which gives me the option of spreading the payments out 6-12 months with no interest payments. I always like using someone else's money when it doesn't cost me any interest.
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Old 08-16-2016, 10:38 PM   #27
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PLEASE BE CAREFUL. A lot, almost all, airstream scam postings on eBay or online try to get people to pay using a eBay or pay pal escro account for the transaction.
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Old 08-16-2016, 11:15 PM   #28
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For the most part, PayPal has been great when I've made relatively small purchases over the Internet. But you have to keep an eye on your PayPal account and the bank account that it's attached to.

A couple of years ago, some scammer somehow started making deductions from my bank account that showed up as PayPal purchases. At first, it was very small amounts that I didn't notice, but over time, they grew larger and larger. PayPal had no record of any transactions at all.

It took a while to get it all straightened out and it was a major pain in the neck. I had to close my bank account and open a new one. Along with that, I had to change all of my banking passwords. I also had to close my PayPal account and open a new one. Additionally, I had to instruct the bank not to transfer any PayPal "purchases" made on my old bank account to my new one while things changed over. Other normal purchases were OK to transfer.

To this day, I still don't know how a scammer could get fraudulent transactions to show up as PayPal purchases without PayPal being involved.
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Old 08-18-2016, 11:05 AM   #29
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For overseas, large purchases and sites where the Paypal transaction is initiated thru the seller site with a seller I don't know, I change my Paypal password beforehand and then change it back after the transaction. That way it works for the transaction but not afterward.
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Old 08-18-2016, 04:27 PM   #30
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I've been using it for selling my Dent Rollers. Got burned by a member here on the first batch. Now I require PayPal only and have never had a problem since.
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