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Old 12-29-2019, 09:29 AM   #21
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We're going to strongly recommend a good used Airstream that's a year or two old. Someone else will have dealt with the worst warranty issues, and it will still be under warranty in case you find anything else. Main thing to check on any used model is the seams between the exterior aluminum sheets and to look for any possible water damage from current or previous leaks. In any case, if you buy from a dealer have all those seams checked and then re-sealed where appropriate as part of the sale - even if you have to pay for that service.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:00 AM   #22
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Think about how you want to use the trailer, with or without shore power? within reach of cell phone coverage? or off the grid?

I personally am afraid that Airstream is adding a lot more power consuming electronics than the the already marginal batteries can support. I would not want the power awning for example, but would want an awning as we use our a great deal. We tend to canp at National Parks and monuments without shore power.

It all depends on your style
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:14 AM   #23
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I suggest it is all about your willingness to spend money and your risk profile. A used trailer clearly will cost less, but the risk of unrevealed problems exists. In our case we bought a very, very lightly used trailer that was one year old at a big discount. The original dealer was one with a good PDI history so our initial problems were negligible. However, in the 6 years since, we have encountered numerous, and maybe the usual, AS quality issues.
If you buy new, you pay a lot more but you get a warranty for the stuff you find. Only you can determine what that warranty means to you. How close is the nearest dealer? Mine is 4 hours away and I would try to fix something myself rather than incur the 16 hour drive penalty, since you always have to leave the trailer at the dealer for a while. It is hard to tell whether these trailers are built any better now than 5 or so years ago, because the problems are more evident on a forum such as this. But, there are plenty of reports of new trailer quality issues so you would not be immune.
I am still convinced my decision was the right one and after what I have encountered, I would never spend the money for a new Airstream. They are way overpriced for what you get...that is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:44 AM   #24
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Things that worked but broke
Fridge fell out
Half round cabinet doors falling out, still falling out after many trips to the dealer
Half round cabinet doors latch broke
Other cabinet doors falling out
Leaking roof
Popping rivets
Squeaky floor, still squeaking after repair
Tire wear unevenly

Things that should have worked but didn't
Dead battery on delivery
Kitchen faucet self opening


Things that are faulty by design
Owning difficult to operate unless you are a strong 6ft. or better.
Door step difficult to get in and out.
Charger useless unless at full service campground most of the time.

And I left out many small items
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:53 AM   #25
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We also went from a 20' to a 25' back in 2014.

I looked at used, but it's a popular model so the prices were high for a one or two year old model. It was only a couple of thousand dollars difference so we went for new. That us some newer features and a two year warranty. We had a few minor things taken care of on warranty the first year. No regrets.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:55 AM   #26
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No build issues

Bought a new 2014 FC 25 and last March bought new 2019 Classic 30. No issues with either one.
AT&T is a disappointment, as is the router Airstream chose, but no build issues at all.
Love the Alde heating. So good you forget it exists.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:55 AM   #27
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Things that worked but broke
Fridge fell out
Half round cabinet doors falling out, still falling out after many trips to the dealer
Half round cabinet doors latch broke
Other cabinet doors falling out
Leaking roof
Popping rivets
Squeaky floor, still squeaking after repair
Tire wear unevenly

Things that should have worked but didn't
Dead battery on delivery
Kitchen faucet self opening


Things that are faulty by design
Owning difficult to operate unless you are a strong 6ft. or better.
Door step difficult to get in and out.
Charger useless unless at full service campground most of the time.

And I left out many small items
This is our experience with AS quality. We have a 2017 and have heard that year has had major problems, and we have. One big problem we have had is the dealerships we have used, both have been awful and I will never go to again. The quality of dealer service work has been awful, something is missed, broken or not covered under warranty every time.

So don't buy a used 2017, don't buy the extended warranty and find a dealer with good service. The west coast doesn't have any good service dealers other then the dealer in Los Banos Ca.

Good luck, they are beautiful but very expensive to own.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:07 AM   #28
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My comment earlier motivated me to look behind my shower wall again (I wish it were clear plexiglass for real, ha ha...constantly uneasy about whatís happening behind my shower wall). Todayís discovery, no leaks, but a broken screw...now I will spend all afternoon on this screw. My Airstream dealership just left the broken screw in there and capped over it, but thatís not my style...itís all very personal. #ZenandtheartofAirstreamMaintenance Click image for larger version

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**This photo shows a few things for those interested. You can see how there is caulking behind the shower hot/cold on off silver faucet thing (what is that called for the life of me)? Airstream does not do that or at least didnít on mine, so literally every time you shower on a factory Airstream any water you get on the faucet leaks down behind the wall and into the wood floor of your Airstream, how bad is that happening, how wild are you with your wand I guess, har har?

You can also see the lovely and now much appreciated by me ďtelephone chordĒ.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:10 AM   #29
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We've been happy with our '17 26RBT bought new. We only had the 2 year warranty so think the 3 year warranty with new Airstreams is better. One visit to Jackson Center at end of our 2 year period took care of a number of small issues but mostly to replace the front AC which had lost coolant.
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Old 12-29-2019, 11:16 AM   #30
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If everyone who was happy with the purchase of a new unit were to post, those posts from complainers would approximate a pimple on an elephants....., well, you get my drift. I can afford new, but for me, why spend the extra to enjoy the immediate depreciation, if you can find what you want pre-owned. We've done that twice, and IF we step up to a larger unit again, that's what we'll do again. Yeah, finding that needle in the haystack may take a little time, which may not be satisfactory for you. But to your question, one shouldn't worry about quality buying new, IMHO.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:06 PM   #31
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Satisfied owner of new 2019 FC25FBTwin. Only a few minor warranty issues that have been nicely addressed by dealer. I say go for it (and be prepared to do the few "small fixes" yourself) and rely on your 3 yr warranty if you have any bigger problems (hopefully not.)
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:29 PM   #32
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We have owned 3 different 25's; 06', 08', and a new 14'. Now we have a 28' we also bought new. The 25' is a great size; you can pull with most 1/2T's or larger SUV's, and it is pretty comfortable living size. We got tired of the lounge area for visiting or watching tv, is the reason we went up to the 28'. But, if you got an older model, you might consider changing out the lounge for a wrap around conversion like they do at Airstream Adventure custom shop in Oregon...gives you a nice lounge area and extra storage with useful serving area on top of the drawers. Good luck!
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Old 12-29-2019, 04:46 PM   #33
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Hi all- we have had a 2012 20í Flying Cloud for 5 years. Bought it used and have had no major problems-we are wanting to go bigger as we now have a small dog and while we really like the 20í- itís just too small. We are debating between a brand new model or a good used one- possibly 25í. Love being part of the Airstream family.

We keep reading about folks who are buying new Airstreams and complaining about quality and consistency of newer product. We donít hear much from satisfied owners of new Airstreams- are you out there? Should we go new or try and get an older model that might be better constructed?

We welcome your thoughts.
Important questions to ask: How many weeks was the trailer in use? How many miles towed? How many miles of gravel or dirt roads was it towed? How much boondocking vs full service campgrounds? How many adults, kids, pets use it? etc.
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Old 12-30-2019, 02:29 PM   #34
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Have owned a few RV's over the years (SOB-TT, 5-ers, MH, popup). Bought our first AS new about 16 months ago and it is by far the best RV we've ever owned. Took it on an 8000 mile trip this past June/July and several shorter trips with no major issues. Have used it in snow weather to 95+deg. Have had a few very minor issues, all fixed at JC in August. With the 3-year warranty, I'd recommend buying new if that's in your budget.
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Old 12-30-2019, 11:03 PM   #35
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We bought new in 2018 and are satisfied. A few minor issues that were easily corrected under warranty.
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Old 12-31-2019, 06:20 AM   #36
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We also bought new in 2018. A classic. More issues than I would have wanted but nothing a couple trips to the dealer didn't fix. We are very happy with it.
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:21 AM   #37
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Thanks for input!

Thanks all for responding- very helpful info- See you on the road!
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Old 12-31-2019, 07:25 AM   #38
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The wife and I bought a 2019 22FB Sport earlier this year and traveled to NY and back. We had no problems other than a popped rivet, which was probably my fault. But, like you, we discovered a need for a bit of extra room, and we felt the 2019 23FB that we traded for was the ideal size, not too big, not too small.


The 22FB we traded in was described as "Gently Used" by the dealer, and sold within a month. I bet the new owners will be happy.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:26 AM   #39
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Ours is Good

We bought FC23FB new in 2018. No major failures. The little issues I fixed myself. No regrets.


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Old 12-31-2019, 09:16 AM   #40
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I second what ProTech said about finding a good dealer on the West Coast. I also bought in Los Banos, Calif.



The best service shop on the West Coast is Vinnie's Airstream Repair in Northern Calif.


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