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Old 06-26-2018, 02:26 PM   #21
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Honda Pilot and Sport 22

@gammadog I don't wish I bought smaller, but I'm glad I didn't buy bigger.

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Another way to see inside one (before your dealer gets one) is to look on the classifieds here and also facebook at Airstream Hunter and go take a look at them. I looked at lots of floorplans that way.

The good news about the 22 is that if you do decide (as some posters suggest) that it's too small, you can always sell it/trade up. Used 22s at a good price are hard to find. My local dealer hasn't had one stay on his lot for longer than a week and he's only had 1 on the lot in the last 8 months (or so he told me). He has the same used 16s there that he showed me during the winter. Just FYI.

Regarding towing: The Pilot tows like a champ. Uphill, downhill. In wind. On squirrely roads.

I have a brake controller, Reese WDH, and sway controller. All those were installed at the dealer where I bought the trailer.

We live full-time in a valley in the high desert of CA so I tow in terrible conditions.

Anywhere I want to go I have to climb out of this valley and descend into wherever I want to be. 30MPH sideload winds are not uncommon-- tho I try to avoid them by planning my tow-outs for mornings. Winds are usually bad when I get back to town, almost always in the afternoons.

The highest peak I've towed to is 8000 feet, where we have a vacation home in Mammoth Lakes. The first time I did it I was nervous about the climb but even more about the 4000 foot, 6% descent to Bishop on the way home--but it did fine. Not sure you're gonna have those kinds of conditions in OH.

I haven't had any sway issues -- tho I can feel the force of the super-high wind (at overpasses, bridges and narrow roads with heavy 18 wheelers passing) its easy to control with slow speed and a firm hand. Usually I drive really fast, but towing, I'm just about the slowest girl on the road.

I do push it into place at my house with a front hitch on my Jeep Rubi. I just don't have the space to make the turn to back it next to my house with it tail hitched to my Pilot. That's the only time that the Pilot fails me.

Hope that helps.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:39 PM   #22
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Thanks for all the information, That makes me feel better about the pilot towing a 22. I talked to my local dealer again and the price over the phone he offered a new 2019 sport 22 was for 48k which sounds really good. Not sure what everyone else thinks about that price if its good or not.

Now knowing your rent your trailer My wife and I might see if we have enough points to fly to Cali and rent it for the weekend to get a first-hand experience with the 22.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:42 PM   #23
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9campbec, Attending a rally will answer a lot of your questions and I just happen to be hosting a rally next week (!) July 4 - 8 in Marengo, OH at the Cardinal Shooting Center (Near Columbus!). Stop by and check out some Airstreams and talk to us. A friendly group who will have no problem showing off their Airstreams and chatting up all things Airstream. For other Ohio area rallies here's our NOVA group rally page:

https://sites.google.com/view/campnova/rallies
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:59 PM   #24
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You might find this thread of interest:

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Old 06-26-2018, 08:21 PM   #25
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I would love to come to the rally to check out the airstreams. I should be able to come Saturday the 7th is there an easy way to find you when we get there?
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Old 06-27-2018, 05:00 AM   #26
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I would love to come to the rally to check out the airstreams. I should be able to come Saturday the 7th is there an easy way to find you when we get there?
I'm in site #319. The others are in the sites around me in that loop. Look forward to meeting you!
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:13 AM   #27
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Base price can be misleading...

That sounds like a good price-- depending on what it includes...

I'd try to negotiate in a few things I've found to be worth their weight in gold.

1) power hitch. May seem lame but its SO worth it. I can't tell.you how many times we've said this to each other over the last months.

2) lower front aluminum stone guards. Some ppl say these aren't necessary on the 22 bc it's so narrow, but mine already has a rock ding and ive only been towing a few months ... tho I have towed a ton in that time.

3) rear bumper This is my lowest priority add on, but I wanted it bc I have seen the damage that a slight backing up mistake can make. We also store our tank drain hose and gloves there. Good hoses dont really fit in the provided under chassis tube.

The cost of these addons can be significant... So I'd think about the additions you want before you get to the negotiating table.

My purchase price included these but my unit had also been used 2x tho it looked new. I paid 42k but I think I got an excellent deal.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:50 AM   #28
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@mammothmama

I planned on getting one with solar for sure. I also plan on trying to get them to toss in the rock guards and WD hitch.

I didn't think about the power jack and bumper. I will just see what I can get them to toss in.
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:19 AM   #29
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I started with a 16 Sport, purchased new, and enjoyed it a lot, but it always felt cramped. After 3 years I sold it and purchased a used 23D, which is worlds better in terms of space and, I think, quality. Everyone 's needs and desires are different, and the 16 was the perfect first trailer for me. I searched for a long time before finding my 2015 International 23D, and buying used allowed me to afford a much nicer unit than I could have purchased new. As others have said, all the issues were worked out by the first owners, and all I've had is fun with my Airstream. Best of luck with your decision!!
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:33 AM   #30
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This just showed up on my Craigslist alert:

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tro/6628208110.html
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:38 AM   #31
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I'm going to schedule to go look at the 22 sport it might be perfect I have not been able to walk in one yet. I'm going to see if I can find a used 2017-2018 to buy as long as it's in really good shape I'm completely fine with used.

I feel that on longer trips having the 22 would be much better than the 16 in the long run.
If a (little) used 22 Sport is your goal, my 2018 ( only used 4 nights) is available for way less than new. My wife and I tried it with our Lab and found it was just too cramped...kind of like musical chairs with not enough chairs!
Contact me if interested or if you wish to chat.
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:47 AM   #32
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Strongly consider the 22 FB. We bought ours new 4 years ago and it has been perfect for the two of us. We use it exactly like you are intending and have taken a couple of long trips very comfortably. The 7 foot width is not a consideration. We tow with a 6cyl Toyota Tacoma effortlessly with the equalizing hitch. The bathroom is deluxe and the bed is the largest in any airstream. Very light inside can cheerful. We are at the end of our travels and have ours for sale for $38,000 and it is in perfect condition-like new. Charlie Hodshon-chodshon@gmail.com
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:14 PM   #33
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Go for the 22í - wonít be disappointed

We looked at a used 16í and while nice, it felt cramped compared to a new 22í Sport.The $48K price you were quoted is in line with discounts offered here.

We ultimately bought a Flying Cloud 23FB which is very similar to the 22í Sport. Tongue weight is a reasonable 476 lbs. dry which fits our TV fine (2016 VW Touareg TDI). Just got back from first trip and averaged 16.3 mpg.

One thing we didnít like on both 22í and 23í was the dinette table size. Itís 35Ē long which is tight for us. Fixing that with a new hardwood cherry top thatís 32Ē.

Good luck with your quest!
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Old 07-01-2018, 12:59 PM   #34
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Definitely go used. And if you want quality get a pre 1980 Airstream. Check this Forum for all the poor quality and service threads. We have had a 1974 and have a 1998, a world of differance in quality. We only have 80K miles on the 98 and try and guess which cabinet or door will fall off on each leg of a trip. And cold, or hot, depending on the season, they are not well insulated. Go used to see if you really like what you think you want.

Investigate and good luck with your quest
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Old 07-01-2018, 01:30 PM   #35
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The 22, being narrower, may be an easier tow. A bit less wind resistance.
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Old 07-02-2018, 04:53 AM   #36
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I might be interested message me chriscampbell224@gmail.com

Thanks for all the advise I’m really hoping to see a 22 sometime soon if I like it I feel it would be the trailer we might get.
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Old 07-02-2018, 04:56 AM   #37
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I tried to email but the email failed.

Can you email me chriscampbell224@gmail.com
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