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02-08-2012, 01:30 PM
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Rivet Master 
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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Originally Posted by moosetags
If I were ordering a new Airstream, I would definitely leave off the sky light/sun roof. Ours has been blocked since new. I wish it wasn't there.
Brian
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Agreed - they only serve to let HEAT in in the summer and they LEAK after a few years. If we are ever fortunate enough to buy another new AS, we will DEFINITELY leave out the skylights.
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WBCCI# 03876
AIR# 6511
2005 28' CCD, 2011 Sierra 5.3L, Equal-I-Zer
Empty Nesters - spending our money on OURSELVES for a change!
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02-08-2012, 02:23 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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I have to comment on the skylight.
It's a cloudy day right now and it's kind of dark and dreary inside the trailer. I just stood up and opened the skylight shade and the kitchen/living area become instantly bright and cheery. We would not be without this wonderful source of light.
And it's free not optional, I think you have to pay extra to live without it.
doug k
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02-08-2012, 02:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
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Weldon Spring
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Yes, I think the "change" order costs $500.00. Also, at some point within the last couple of years they apparently figured out how to install them (on the production line) without drilling the #%&@ out of the perimeter, which, as some of us experienced, caused leaks after approximately 2 years....and one week.......
I, too, enjoy them.
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02-08-2012, 06:29 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Lougeorge,
The dealer is Woodland Travel Center on the north side of Grand Rapids. They are an exceptional dealer, and I would definitely recommend them. They are a multi-generational family business and are the oldest Airstream dealer in the country. Their website is:
Welcome | Woodland Travel Center | Airstream's Oldest Dealer
They are owned by the Carlson family, and Craig Carlson is the one that I have spent the most time with.
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02-09-2012, 09:47 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Weldon Spring
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 462
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Hi Lougeorge, I can also recommend Woodland Travel Center...won't bore you with the details, but just want to say that when I had a problem when in their area last year (during the peak camping season), they worked me in within a couple of days, had it fixed within an hour, and in general, treated me like I was a regular customer.
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02-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Alright, I'm calling tomorrow to confirm and place the order. Delivery is scheduled for April 1 (the dealer already has one on the production line).
I feel like I'm walking down the aisle and no one is saying "STOP! You can still get out of this!". You must all be convinced that this is the right thing to do...
Any last words?
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02-09-2012, 08:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
Birmingham
, Alabama
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby
Any last words?
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You've received some good feedback here. Just as a couple others have mentioned, I'd strongly consider the 2nd a/c with a 30'er and the awning pkg IF you plan to "enjoy" a lot of camping in 85+ degree weather. Especially if you keep the skylights. IMO, the bedroom television upgrade cost is a bit ridiculous considering one can buy the tv they want for less $ along with a $70 swingout/tilt mount and have the dealer install during delivery.
Last words: Enjoy it!
-Chris
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02-09-2012, 10:55 PM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,716
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We have recommended a lot of options. Remember if these are installed at the factory, there is a list price for them. And like the list price for the trailer, it is absolutely negotiable. That is, get the whole package list price and then do some hard bargaining. They should give you 10% and probably won't discuss more than 15%. The sweet spot is probably somewhere in between. That's my experience.
doug k
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02-10-2012, 06:23 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Too late now
Alright, it's a done deal! New 30' Flying Cloud on the way... We didn't do the second A/C unit, simply because we rarely have camping weather that's above 80 degrees and most of our campsites that we frequent are shaded.
We did get the solar package and inverter system, as well as the bedroom TV, but the dealer is installing the TV after the delivery so we can get a 26" rather than a 22" and do it cheaper. Who would want to go camping with less than a 26" TV anyway?!?!
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02-10-2012, 06:46 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Costa Mesa
, California
Join Date: Aug 2011
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2012 30' Flying Cloud
We love ours. We bought it in August and took it to Death Valley and Borrego Springs in August. We had a solar panel installed and it works great. It is a dream come true!
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02-10-2012, 06:57 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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SandraB, good to hear. Anything to be aware of so that we don't break something or do anything wrong? What's the best and worst of it?
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02-10-2012, 09:10 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Costa Mesa
, California
Join Date: Aug 2011
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The best things are the size and cupboard space. The booth, sofa and bed are very comfortable. Bathroom is spacious. LED lighting with dimmer is great. We get better gas milage on our 30' Airstream than our 21' SOB trailer. We also love the design.
We have had a few warranty issues. We had a leak in the heat pump and the thermostat didn't work. The monitoring system for the water was defective. I don't like the light wood-look flooring because it has grooves that dirt gets into and doesn't come out when you sweep. I will replace that eventually. The blinds don't cover the sides of the windows and people can see onto the bed at night. I will make valances as soon as I figure out a good design. The funniest problem that we had was that the gray and black water labels were reversed. We almost did a sewer flush with the black water closed.
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02-10-2012, 09:32 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Thats great stuff to know. I'm already making a list of stuff to double check, and the status meter for water tanks is already on it! Thank you for your help... I will check the labels on black/grey water tanks, and the bedroom blinds especially.
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02-12-2012, 06:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2011 30' Flying Cloud
Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 411
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Interesting that like Sandra B, our grey and black external labels were reversed. No problem in having Airstream send me a new set. A couple of other warranty issues included a crimped line that very much slowed down the external water tank valve. Our monitor system needed to be re-calibrated and the was leak (due to a loose fitting) at the sink water filter.
We absolutely love the extra storage, the larger bath, and the room at the front. The three feet over our earlier 28 foot seems like thirty. The sofa is very comfortable and adding two ottomans have really made a difference.
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02-24-2012, 01:18 AM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Gig Harbor
, Washington
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 780
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convection oven
After using our microwave/convection combo under the stovetop, I have to say it's awkward and the damn thing has apopcorn button ot yet it won't make popcorn. Whats up with that? I do like the bedroom TV though. I like tolay in bed at nite and watch the news. Love the trailer though. Two years to work out all the bugs. I wonder if this Sharp microwave convection is just defective. Thanks guys
Dan
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02-24-2012, 06:13 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 409
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You need a degree in engineering to make that stupid thing make anything other than making the chef angry. We took ours out and put in a simple microwave in the cabinet above the stovetop and a toaster oven below.
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02-24-2012, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master 
2018 33' Classic
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
2012 30' Flying Cloud
Grand Rabbits
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2010
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We had a convection microwave in our 22 Sport, and it worked very well, but can't say what brand it was. My wife is like Martha Stewart with a microwave (although she hasn't done any jail time yet  ) and we have had some pretty nice meals on the road.
If you can't get that thing to make popcorn, I'd get rid of it. That's the primary function of a microwave, isn't it?
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