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Old 01-14-2009, 05:45 PM   #21
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I would have purchased a Airstream motorhome instead of a trailer.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:18 PM   #22
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If not an AS, then what?? If we hadn't found, finally, the AS of our dreams, we wouldn't be pulling anything. It's as simple as that! We looked at many others - we went to shows and we went to campgrounds and looked around. We went to rallys and looked at all kinds of TTs. AS was the only choice we had. We purchased it new because it was a totally new world to us and we willingly paid for the two year guarantee that came with a new trailer. Even as a new one, we had to make it ours by reupholstering everything - sofa, dinette cushions, bedspread and new curtains. It was built as an Ocean Breeze and still carries the label but it ain't no Ocean Breeze now. I know, many will disagree with our decision, but we wanted it to be our TT and now it is. Keep looking - you never know what will show up tomorrow. It's out there... and you'll be so much happier you kept looking.

Those that kept mentioning the Arctic Fox - we looked all over for one...just to see what one looked like. Couldn't find one any place. I've still not seen one. Anxious to see what everyone likes about it. I've seen it written that it is a highly rated TT - but I don't know what it looks like.

We couldn't be happier with our AS. Our first year of towing has ended - we spent it learning how to 'stream. At summers end we towed it through Virginia and ended up making it into six states, spent thirty nights on it, and towed it nearly 2,000 miles. We learned something about towing and we can't wait to get started again........will winter ever end??????
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:44 PM   #23
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No one has mentioned this brand and it has been around since the 50`s. Holiday Rambler makes a good product and years ago back in the 70`s Holiday Rambler had aluminum frames as well as Airstream.Just a thought.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:40 PM   #24
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I agree that going with a used but cared for AS is probably the most economic way to get a good trailer. I have also owned an 83 Avion and was extremely impressed by the quality.
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:53 PM   #25
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If one can dream... I would have a Winnebago View or an Itasca Navion. Both are dodge sprinter based chassis mohos that have really good looking interiors and get around 18mpg. Behind the moho I would have a 16' or 19' Bambi, just for good measure.

Depending on what you are looking for and what you want to spend though I think there are some other travel trailer's worth looking at. Having just purchased my first TT, a 1981 27' A/S international, I'm amazed at how well everything works. I looked forever but ultimately decided on the A/S due to how easy they are to resell. But I have found that I absolutely love tinkering with this thing.

I plan to use mine for alot of winter camping (the first week we owned to we took it to Taos to go skiing) so sometimes I wish I had looked at more insulated trailers.

I would also recommend buying a book on basic rving to read up on all of the in and outs of RV ownership.

So like others have mentioned I would say...Bigfoot, Arctic Fox, Casita (these are small, but can be commonly found as they are made in TX), Star Craft, as well as Avions. Also look at Argosy's, I think they are commonly overlooked by most people who have airstream fever. That said they have everything on the inside that airstreams have and are generally cheaper than their shiny siblings.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:08 PM   #26
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Asnubie - as mentioned a used Airstream is a good choice. Almost 5 years ago we bought a 78 Airstream Excella and its been a great trailer - no problems at all. An old AS is better than any other "new" trailers out there.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:36 PM   #27
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I've had three of the rest, now to me i have the best. Along with an AS you have these forums, an extended family so to speak, AS camp trips, rallies , food , fun, drink, with like minded fantastic people. I never went on a Starcraft campout with other Starcrafters!! Set your budget and start lookin, the deals are out there.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:58 PM   #28
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Right on Rivet master. He is so right, however look for used , get a free inspector and make sure everything works. I think you will see great deals.
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Old 01-15-2009, 12:28 AM   #29
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I am currently seeking an AS but price is holding be back. I am convinced about the quality but..... My decision is to either decide to get what I want regardless of price or find the 2nd best travel trailer. Can anyone help with the notion of "If not an Airstream, what then?
I was also under the impression that I could not afford an Airstream (especially a brand new one) but went online shopping in CA in any case. I found the dealership with the best prices and just went to look. Well, as it always happens, I left the proud owner of a 2008 17ft Airstream Safari Sport. As someone has previously mentioned, these are a whole lot lighter than the other airstreams and considerably cheaper too. I'm all about quality and high tech features and have to say that I am totally satisfied with the Safari Sport Series. The dealership offered great financing and my Airstream payment is less than my cars so I'm smiling. If an Airstream is what you want...go out and make it happen. Now looking at an even bigger one as I'm hooked!
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:00 AM   #30
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Yes Brian they have shut down the plant but the ones on the lots could be a deal right now. Down side is there would be no factory warranty. Having a Bigfoot now could be a cool thing as there are no more to be built.

Re Awards... The manufacturer had a couple Awards at the Hamilton RV show last year. They were still alive and kickin at that point. The factory was/is ? down near Lake Erie. Dunnville maybe?

Side note... I think we may have met??? I was riding my bike through Aldershot last year and stopped to talk with a guy that had a 27' Award. He was kind enough to show me through the trailer. Maybe this was you??
I don't believe it was me that you met - although I would gladly have shown mine to you if we had met, I was always quite proud of it!

You are correct, the factory is in Dunnville. The last time I had work done there on our Award, maybe 3 or 4 years ago, they had a decent sized factory and were building a limited number of new units. The factory was big enough to accomodate maybe 15-20 units, either being built, or being repaired.

The last time I visited was last spring. At that time, my Award was in need of fairly extensive floor/sidewall repairs and there was a gathering of Award owners at a Provincial park near Dunnville - the factory "sort of' sponsored the get together. people were giving talks on work they had done on their trailers & my wife & I rode down for the day on the bike to attend.

By that time, the Award factory had moved into much smaller quarters - in fact it was an old Canadian Tire Store. I don't think they could fit more than two trailers in there for work and they were not building any more new ones- I had a chat with the owners.

I'm surprised that they were at the Hamilton RV show - perhaps they were just touting for repair work.

When I talked with them about possibly repairing my trailer they seemed to have a reasonable backlog of work from all over Canada/US so i imagine thay may just keep their head above water. Only seemed to be three or four people working there though and it was a real hands on operation - even for the "boss!"

There were a lot of things I really liked about the trailer, but in the end I decided enough was enough - in reality it probably would have been cheaper to keep it going than to switch to the AS, but then, you only get one kick at the cat!

The guy I sold it to in Oklahoma city has space where he can work on it at his home and is pretty handy. He has done major work on it, floor/walls, complete interior decor upgrade, new appliances etc. and it pleased with it - I think he is in Mexico with it right now!

I guess time will time if i made the right choice. I'm not kidding myself that we won't have some problems with the AS - just not as many I hope! The Award was getting to the point that we had problems with it every time we used it and it was screwing up our trip plans!

I don't mind tinkering with small jobs but don't have the facilities to undertake major work - we store the trailer out in Freelton.

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Old 01-15-2009, 11:02 AM   #31
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I'll admit to buying an used T@B recently - I just hadn't found what I really wanted in an Airstream during my 6 month long search. Used Bambi CCDs were $25k (and have small beds), and I just missed out on an Argosy Minuet. Having this trailer lets us do a big trip next June and gives us something to use if we do find a vintage AS that needs work.

I like my trailer because it's super simple and pretty well built for what it is. The "cuteness" factor will also make it easy to resell compared to a generic white box. There is also an active Yahoo! group and the occasional group camping trip. After going to a local RV show last weekend, I feel better about buying the T@B - most of the SOBs there just didn't appeal to me. Too much olde-Colonial stuff going on inside....

But if I had to buy a bigger non-AS trailer - well, I wouldn't. (Well, there is an all-composite lightweight Eco that's coming out soon, or maybe a Casita, but the wife didn't like the carpet-lined walls.) Maybe that's why I keep on searching for that right bit of aluminium....

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Old 01-15-2009, 12:03 PM   #32
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Arctic Fox is made by Northwood Manufacturing in Oregon. Easy to find on the internet. Their photos and floor plans on their website look very nice and Airstream could learn a few things from them. I have heard they are made for cold weather and they are available with Thermal Pane windows, though I couldn't find anything about more insulation. Also, no prices. I have seen a few of them (never been inside), maybe because they are from the western part of the country.

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Old 01-15-2009, 12:56 PM   #33
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There is an Airstream at every price point if you're patient. If you love the AS product, there is no substitute. We may have considered another brand if they were built sleek, aerodynamic and made for the road. Nothing else drew our attention.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:06 PM   #34
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As Foiled Again pointed out, there are likely to be some super deals if you can find them. How about running an "Airstream wanted, quick cash available" ad in Kijiji and Craigslist. I bet you get a lot of response and at least one good Airstream at a rock bottom price.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:28 PM   #35
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It can be an Airstream

You need to be patient and SEARCH. Start with the classified on this forums. It took us two years to locate ours...and we can say Airstream
is the one to have.

You can visit Tin Can Tourists and you will find some different trailers. We recently purchased a FAN. They are fine. BUT NOT AN AIRSTREAM.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:11 AM   #36
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Other trailers

Airstreams are the best However for the price I would look at Nash or Artic Fox Very well built also and all season coaches
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:18 AM   #37
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definitely consider an Avion if you can find a good one. follow this link for one example of a classified section for Avions.

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Old 01-20-2009, 08:20 AM   #38
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Avions are very nice well built trailers, my dad had two of them, a 1966 and then a 1976.
The interior wood work was every bit as nice as the Airstreams, if not better.
The pre-1962 models can be POLISHED like an Airstream, after '62 Avions were made with Anodized Aluminum that can NOT be polished.

For us it is the round top on the entry door and the more rounded ceiling and end-caps that give the Airstream a cozier feeling, Hobbit house style.
Just love the feeling..... , never quite got that out of any other trailer.

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Old 01-23-2009, 01:04 PM   #39
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going out of business

Just as an aside. I don't know if you are looking at the possibility of a 5er, but Teton has just recently gone out of business. Teton was known for building one of the best four season 5er's available.

Look closely at the company before buying new.

Good luck,

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Old 01-23-2009, 01:26 PM   #40
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Forgot to mention.

If you ever plan on doing any winter camping, look at trailers made up North.

I recently spent two weeks in a Sprinter (made in Texas). Daytime highs were around 32 degrees during this two week period. The furnace never shut off, and I had to use the stove to provide supplemental heat. It is very difficult to watch tv with the furnace blasting all the time.

My AS cycles about every twenty to thirty minutes in those temps.

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