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Old 06-24-2006, 09:54 PM   #21
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things we considered when buying an airstream

We got our 2005 25 foot Safari Special Edition in January of 05.
These were the things we looked at:

1) not being too big to use in state park camgrounds. Didn't want slide outs - too much to go wrong there.
2)storage the 25 has two wardrobes and better storage.
3) kitchen functionality it has a great kitchen and dinette and pantry and built in microwave. It is so easy to cook in that kitchen.
4) open floor plan (for an airstream that is) which would handle a golden retriever in the camper. Room for a dog bed between the sofa and dinette.
5) Dog friendly - we didn't really see an airstream that would work for us interior decor wise until we stepped into the special edition with the shiny walls. All I could think of was dog hair on the white fuzz on the regular safaris and classic models. I adore the shiny insides.
6) windows - loved the special edition windows which are like the CCD's.
7) practicality of upholstery - never could understand who would want the blue and white decor - the taupes and browns suited us
8) wanted a vinyl floor - no carpet
9) easy to haul - I can tow this thing no problem which is nice for the husband. It drives better than my old popup little camper. You don't know it is back there. We drive with a Dodge Ram 3500 dually long bed big mid-life crisis guy truck (hubby bought the truck before we got the airstream thinking we would get a 5th wheel. At the rv show we didn't see a single 5th wheel that appealed to us)
10) That brings me to the cool factor. We got home from the rv show totally disgusted we didn't see anthing that tripped our trigger. We both looked at each other and at the same time said, "what I really liked was those crazy airstreams".
By the next weekend we bought one. It is just so incredibly cool. It defies logic how it makes you feel. It is like a happy zone for me. We store it in our backyard I love going in it periodically.
11) oh and the audio system - nice to have all that entertainment in the RV when weather is terrible.

I'm counting the days until our next trip we leave for Highland Haven on the 15th of July!

Barbara
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Old 06-25-2006, 07:58 AM   #22
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for our family there are two sets of considerations when buying a used Airstream.

One, is the livability and practicality side;

The floor plan, whether rear or side bath, roominess of the model length, and storage.
The appointments inside, does it have microwave or oven, the heater and a/c functionality, the overall look; is there a fold out table and room for a tv/ stereo.Is it a big enough bathroom to be usable. Can we sit out a two day storm and not go nuts in this trailer?

Two, is the functional mechanical side;

How much interior/exterior restoration, or mods will be necessary to get the unit to our level of expectation?
How much work will be necessary (by me or paid for) on the "mechanicals" from the lp tanks and tongue to the water systems and heater and on and on. How much work is necessary on the visual end; cleaning and or polishing.
Interior upgrades for aesthetic appeal also.
When its a motorhome you add the obvious mechanical issues that may need work here also.

Then I mentally add up the overall costs in labor and dollars of all the above.
The bottom line is if it works for us!
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I'm writing an article for Airstream Life on this interesting topic. I was wondering what things you considered when you bought your last Airstream. Price? Floorplan? Weight? Tow vehicle limitations? This article will try to be a buyer's guide for newbies who never owned an Airstream before and will focus on buying newer Airstreams rather than vintage one's.

Like my last article, I'd love to quote those with quote-worthy comments on this subject.

Thanks in advance.

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Hi Mike,

I am very lucky to have a good friend that has owned lots of AT’s to guide me. He suggested that I access the Airstream Classifieds &, access & participate in the Airstream Forums & Club or Rally gatherings. He said to look in local and regional newspapers and to access word of mouth anytime that I could.

He told me to pay attention to Weight of my TV & Airstream trailer & hitch weight, engine hp, Transmission, 2WD or 4x4,and to consider Anti sway and braking devices and number of axels.

He talked about intended use, short or long term, summer or winter or both. Then came sleeping capacity, regular & for a guest or two.

Certainly money was way up on top. With a tow vehicle already in my possession that appeared to be able to do the job; all money would get directed at purchasing the Airstream trailer and the antis-way and braking devices and extended towing mirrors. Plus keeping a reserve for some necessary unknown and un-thought of items and the cost to pick up the trailer and repair or replace unexpected breakdowns or failures near purchase date. Must also keep some money for available campsite rentals.

Gads there was and is enough stuff to think about it could just about make me dizzy. My friend said to make a sensible financially responsible and calculated decision not an emotional decision.

I hope that I can remember that and everything else and follow the rules of acquisition.

Whoa, I thought that this was supposed to be fun.

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I'm writing an article for Airstream Life on this interesting topic. I was wondering what things you considered when you bought your last Airstream. Price? Floorplan? Weight? Tow vehicle limitations? This article will try to be a buyer's guide for newbies who never owned an Airstream before and will focus on buying newer Airstreams rather than vintage one's.
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Hi Mike,
I completely agree with Janet's comment way below. I find it amazing how stuck folks seem to be on their current vehicle. They try to tow heavy trailers with their favorite little SUVs, etc. If you are going to spend big bucks on a nice late model Airstream, by all means, get an adequate tow vehicle to go with it.
I learned this lesson not by good advice, but by scary experiences.

My 1st trailer was a 20' Avion. Of course I tried to tow it with my current vehicle, a Ford Explorer. At highway speed, the tail would start to wag the dog causing an unpleasant urgency of the bladder!
I fixed the problem by trading the Explorer for a GMC Yukon. All was well until I upgraded the 20' Avion for a 25' Airstream. More tail wagging dog nervousness. Fed up with this, I went for a Yukon XL with an 8.1 liter engine. Now towing is the almost effortless and pleasant experience that it should be!

Hi Mike - We looked at trailers we could tow with our spare vehicles. A ford exploder with a stick and a little 6.... we've learned a lot since then. Several years later - we've learned an important lesson.....
Tow vehicles come and go - but Airstreams last forever! Buy what you need - not what you can (currently) tow. Janet
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Old 07-01-2006, 07:01 PM   #25
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I know you said no vintage...but I have to tell you why I bought an AS anyway. I am 59 yr old single female, and I joined "Sisters on the Fly". The members all have small, mostly vintage, trailers. Because I have to pay for all maintenance and repairs (not mechanically inclined to do them myself), I had find a trailer in really great condition. Also, I had sold antiques for a number of years, and just could not justify putting a lot of money into something that would continue to depreciate. So I bought my 1969 Caravel because 1) It will hold/increase in value 2)small enough for me to handle 3)small enough for my tow vehicle 4)seperate beds front and rear so if I have guest or grandkids, we are not sleeping head to toe 5)and like other listers, it is just so darn cute!!
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Old 07-01-2006, 07:25 PM   #26
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Hello my name is Bob Mariano, my wife and I are considering buying an Airstream trailer........would like some tips for 1st time buyers? My wife and I like the thought and feature of the Safari 25' FB......with the door in back of the trailer and the idea of a view with the windows around the dinette area when backing into an area such as a lake, woods etc., I also like the layout of the Classic 31' Dinette........has anyone had a solar package installed and was it worth the cost? We would like to be able to be self sufficent as we both like to fish and hunt and enjoy the outdoors.........I went to the Salem show and talked to one gentleman who suggested a catylic convertor as an option with a disconnect feature for heating......as long as we left a window or vent opened for air.........any information and tips would greatly be appreciated......I am considering buying a diesel engine truck....possibly a Cummings for towing......again thanks and looking forward with any tips and suggestions.
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Old 07-01-2006, 07:41 PM   #27
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Hello and thanks

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We got our 2005 25 foot Safari Special Edition in January of 05.
These were the things we looked at:

1) not being too big to use in state park camgrounds. Didn't want slide outs - too much to go wrong there.
2)storage the 25 has two wardrobes and better storage.
3) kitchen functionality it has a great kitchen and dinette and pantry and built in microwave. It is so easy to cook in that kitchen.
4) open floor plan (for an airstream that is) which would handle a golden retriever in the camper. Room for a dog bed between the sofa and dinette.
5) Dog friendly - we didn't really see an airstream that would work for us interior decor wise until we stepped into the special edition with the shiny walls. All I could think of was dog hair on the white fuzz on the regular safaris and classic models. I adore the shiny insides.
6) windows - loved the special edition windows which are like the CCD's.
7) practicality of upholstery - never could understand who would want the blue and white decor - the taupes and browns suited us
8) wanted a vinyl floor - no carpet
9) easy to haul - I can tow this thing no problem which is nice for the husband. It drives better than my old popup little camper. You don't know it is back there. We drive with a Dodge Ram 3500 dually long bed big mid-life crisis guy truck (hubby bought the truck before we got the airstream thinking we would get a 5th wheel. At the rv show we didn't see a single 5th wheel that appealed to us)
10) That brings me to the cool factor. We got home from the rv show totally disgusted we didn't see anthing that tripped our trigger. We both looked at each other and at the same time said, "what I really liked was those crazy airstreams".
By the next weekend we bought one. It is just so incredibly cool. It defies logic how it makes you feel. It is like a happy zone for me. We store it in our backyard I love going in it periodically.
11) oh and the audio system - nice to have all that entertainment in the RV when weather is terrible.

I'm counting the days until our next trip we leave for Highland Haven on the 15th of July!

Barbara
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Hello and thanks

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We got our 2005 25 foot Safari Special Edition in January of 05.
These were the things we looked at:

1) not being too big to use in state park camgrounds. Didn't want slide outs - too much to go wrong there.
2)storage the 25 has two wardrobes and better storage.
3) kitchen functionality it has a great kitchen and dinette and pantry and built in microwave. It is so easy to cook in that kitchen.
4) open floor plan (for an airstream that is) which would handle a golden retriever in the camper. Room for a dog bed between the sofa and dinette.
5) Dog friendly - we didn't really see an airstream that would work for us interior decor wise until we stepped into the special edition with the shiny walls. All I could think of was dog hair on the white fuzz on the regular safaris and classic models. I adore the shiny insides.
6) windows - loved the special edition windows which are like the CCD's.
7) practicality of upholstery - never could understand who would want the blue and white decor - the taupes and browns suited us
8) wanted a vinyl floor - no carpet
9) easy to haul - I can tow this thing no problem which is nice for the husband. It drives better than my old popup little camper. You don't know it is back there. We drive with a Dodge Ram 3500 dually long bed big mid-life crisis guy truck (hubby bought the truck before we got the airstream thinking we would get a 5th wheel. At the rv show we didn't see a single 5th wheel that appealed to us)
10) That brings me to the cool factor. We got home from the rv show totally disgusted we didn't see anthing that tripped our trigger. We both looked at each other and at the same time said, "what I really liked was those crazy airstreams".
By the next weekend we bought one. It is just so incredibly cool. It defies logic how it makes you feel. It is like a happy zone for me. We store it in our backyard I love going in it periodically.
11) oh and the audio system - nice to have all that entertainment in the RV when weather is terrible.

I'm counting the days until our next trip we leave for Highland Haven on the 15th of July!

Barbara
Hello Barbara

Thanks for all the information on your tips for the purchase of your Airstream, my wife and I too went to an VR show and looked at all the 5th wheels and others toy haul trailes and were not impressed...then we walked into an Airstream and luved the quality and design......do you have the Safari 25' FB .....with the windows around the dinette? A sales person showed us this model because he liked the feature with the windows as youbacked the trailer into an area for the view......never even considered that until he mentioned it..........thanks again......if you have any other tips or advice please let us know.
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Bob
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Okay, new Airstreams is fair enough, but please do mention that if the family size vs budget equation doesn't match up with a new one, going back through one, two, or three decades can result in an affordable, serviceable model that provides many of the amenities of a new one and the reliability and quality of an Airstream.

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The overall quality and price. I would buy three SOB's in the lifetime of one Airstream. More bang for the buck.
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Thankyou for all your help on trying too find the right size airstream!!
'I'm still looking i hoping too find one soon!! So really it is alot better in a long run to buy a new unit or close too new!! I have enjoyed these 'threads' very much !! Thankyou ed kozlowski
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Okay, new Airstreams is fair enough, but please do mention that if the family size vs budget equation doesn't match up with a new one, going back through one, two, or three decades can result in an affordable, serviceable model that provides many of the amenities of a new one and the reliability and quality of an Airstream.

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The passions that Airstreamers develop for their rigs is contagious and exhilarating! There are even joiners and soloers.......who can ask for anything more? Airstreaming is a journey that is full of surprises.....pj
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Comfort & Quality

We wanted to move from our Monaco MoHo to something we could tow comfortably without giving up too much of the interior comfort of the MoHo. Her father had owned a vintage Bambi and we were familiar with Airstream's reputation for quality and towability. We looked at several of the larger Airstream models we thought might suit our needs and those of our Grandchildren who would be camping with us from time to time. I believe that 2004 was the first year of the slide out models and once we laid eyes on our Classic S/O we were sold. We had only to make the trade from our old Monaco and once finished with that little bit of work we were dreamin' of streamin' in our new rig. Since we owned an '03 Duramax Crew, there was no question of tow rig suitability as we owned the ultimate TV. We've been happy with our decision ever since having put over 20K miles on her. We've also been fortunate finding a dealer who is capable of quality custom upgrades as we dream and scheme about improvements to suit our wants and desires in that regard. Airstream Forums, Airstream Life and other Airstreamers have been instrumental in all this added expense and pleasure without a doubt so thanks to all.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:39 PM   #34
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Why I bought the AS

I would like to be more altruistic, but the reason I bought my AS was that I knew it was worth more than I was paying! the neat thing was the seller knew it as well but wanted the space for a motorhome. $1500 for a 72 Tradewind in fair shape.

Pure restoration types read no further!

I am now updating the trailer. New tires, Reupolstered the gauchos, I am now replacing the supply side plumbing (pump and water heater went--so I figure just updating the whole thing!). Before I get to the plumbing I will be replacing the vent with a fantastic vent and replacing the lights with flourescent lights and LED plates. There will be a few other modifications as well. Even after all of that is done and the new axels are installed + new awnings, I am still a few (very few!) bucks ahead and get a heck of a value for my $. These things really are a classic example of something built to last. If the wiring was in condiut I would have also said to be easily repaired .

The AS sort f grew on me; now it has evolved into a hobby of sorts, only it is a very usefull hobby! I get to have a great mobile base camp. I was thinking that maybe when I retire (a long way off yet) it would be fun to take the camel to Las Vegas - by way of North Carolina! (starting from Wisconsin).
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Keep the ideas coming, Folks. I'll be finishing up the article soon.

I appreciate the responses so far. Great stuff!
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We just ordered a 25 FB ccd. The main consideration (besides the fact that we love airstreams) was it being a liveable space. That the design was functional as welll as super cool design (interior and exterior). Love that the bed is in the front of the trailer so the vistas can be seen from the common areas(kitchen/dining/living). We chose to add solar to add life to batteries while dry camping. Able to fit surfboards when we need to lock them up. Decent sized shower (Roman is 6'3"). Lastly, wanted to be able to have entry in all state parks (some do not allow larger than 25 ft).
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Keep the ideas coming, Folks. I'll be finishing up the article soon.
it's taken more than a year to gather info? wow

airstream ownership is 'timeless' are you testing this concept?

rich isn't paying you by the month is he?

since there are dozens of threads here on this topic...

you may still have time to read them.

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Quote-worthy comments ….. hmm. Well, those surely won’t come from me, but here is a response for us.

We moved up from a 4-wheel-drive VW Westfalia camper to our Airstream and wanted a compact size without the camper’s disadvantages. So what did we look for? A trailer so we were not like turtles carrying our “home” around with us all the time. A good shower and toilet and not a wet bath. A bed which remained permanently in place and made-up. Stove and refrigerator large enough to really use. We chose Airstream because of the quality and design of the aluminum shell, the towing characteristics, the axle giving a low center of gravity, and because the 19’ Bambi (Safari - 2002 model) had all of the features we wanted. The quality of the cabinetry did not equal the Westfalia’s, but you cannot have everything all of the time. We selected the Bambi after having sat in and inspected it over several months at RV shows and dealers.

We have made numerous changes to make the Bambi suit us better. Those have included a much larger sink, more counter space (without any crowding of the interior), improved and added drawers, more overhead storage, a solar panel, and reupholstering. We have never felt cramped in it (it is large compared to the VW) and, for at least one trip each year, spend 4-5 weeks in it. We includes: two moderately tall adults and a large dog. We are “outdoor” people and are not usually in the Bambi during the day.

Advice for a newby? Take your time, think about what you want and expect from the trailer, sit and walk around in as many as you can, and consider what will keep you happy when you are on a trip with your Airstream. Buy for yourself and not according to guidelines, however well-meant, from people who will not be with you in your trailer.
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My wife and I started looking for our Airstream when we placed her business on the market. I am a retired military officer and we were planning to simply "drop out" for a while after long careers.

Surprisingly, there is a dearth of Airstreams in our local area (South Florida), and the nearest dealership is small and some 60 miles away.So it was a long process. Eventually, we found our 31' 1986 Sovereign in Tallahassee and our first trip was the 300 mile plus trip home.

We chose the Sovereign because it was roomy, relatively light (compared to today's models) and, while it did need quite a bit of cosmetics, all systems worked. The price was also reasonable.

In the past two years we've towed it 8500 miles and had one driver-induced accident (which, by the way, would have totaled a SOB) and a handful of minor systems glitches that were easily remedied.

Wouldn't trade a minute of it.

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Hello Mike.....my first consideration was what could I tow with my Honda Pilot....despite the tow pkg....NOT MUCH!! ....I fell in love with the 19'.. 75th limited edition...I am a 4ties girl at heart....my fixer-up stage of life has long gone. ... It was going to be my one and only...what more could I want...it's equipped with modern conviences and has vintage style... When the drugs wore off....I remembered....I am married, my son is 13, we have 4 small dogs and my gosh where would I put the toothbrushes let alone my grandkids!!! So we went to the TOY store and now have a Tundra, the '07 Safari 25' SS SE with the L-lounge, 3 sleeping options and a very happy family....we could have gone a step up but outside of having a larger bed, the floor plan didn't offer us much more...The best part of it all is.....I can pass it on to my kids or pass on in it ......
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