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01-20-2025, 07:27 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
Ballston Lake
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2025
Posts: 8
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Advice on Buying FIRST Airstream
Hi, We're thinking of getting to a 27' or 28' Flying Cloud or International.
Has anyone found that having an Airstream over 25 feet makes it more difficult to find camps that can accommodate your size?
Same question if you opt for 50amp instead of 30 amp?
We JUST retired (YIPEE) and hope to travel across country, National Parks, longer trips, like 1-2 months.
We're hoping to avoid solar and just use a generator
Any advice would be useful... Thanks!
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01-20-2025, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,579
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Congratulations!
Welcome to the Retiree Club! I’ve been a member for 5 years in April; it’s everything you’ve been waiting for.
You are asking the right questions. We started with a 23’ Flying Cloud but wanted a 25’. We were tow vehicle-limited at the time. After one season we traded for a 27’ Globetrotter. We considered a 25’ but found the 27’ offered so much more room. Hint: Pick out your trailer first then your tow vehicle. We tried a 1/2 ton truck but now have a 3/4 ton with plenty of payload capacity (key data point).
Go with dual AC’s even if you’re not sure. The extra AC will allow you to chose to run the one farthest from you when relaxing or sleeping. It has a higher resale value should you ever decide to sell. The 50A service is two legs of 50A versus one 30A. This allows you to run more things at the same time without having to worry about tripping a breaker.
We prefer State and National Parks and so far, have never been unable to get a site. I’m sure there are some where a 25’ could fit but not a 27’ but we haven’t run into one yet.
The biggest restriction we’ve run into is generator hours or some not at all. We arrived at one State Park that cut off at 5PM. By the time we got set up, it was past 5 and it was 95F outside! AGM batteries will run out of juice running the furnace overnight. You’ll want a minimum of two 100Ah lithium.
We have two factory 90W solar panels but mainly rely on our upgraded Battle Born GC3 270Ah battery and a Victron MulitPlus II that can run the AC for an hour by itself. It also can “assist” if you have less than 50A shore power but providing battery power (inverted to 110V).
The 27’ has a larger pantry, microwave (we wanted the gas stove too), double wide wardrobe, extra space in the galley and space at the end of the two beds. Make sure to sit in both to compare.
Good luck with your quest!
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2019 27’ Globetrotter FBT Walnut/Dublin Slate
2018 FC23FB
2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi Laramie Blue Ox 1000#
WBCCI# 10258
RETIRED!
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01-20-2025, 08:11 PM
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Rivet Master 
2020 23' Flying Cloud
2019 22' Sport
Sebastian
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,282
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Congratulations on your retirement and your anticipated travels! An Airstream is a great start.
As for advice: It sounds like you have a good idea what you want, so I will stick to how to use it. Living in the eastern part of the country, we do quite well with finding electrical hookups in appealing settings. You are right, solar is limited unless you really put some $ into it, but a few panels can save your batteries (especially lead acid) at times, and you can use “suitcase” panels if your travel style changes.
So, get to know your trailer’s utility usage (electricity, propane, fresh water and waste storage) before you commit to some out-of-the-way stay. Best approach is to do a dry run in your driveway (or somewhere you can easily “un-pull the plug”).
Have fun, and safe travels!
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-Don
(That man in that tiny can)
(Same man, Bigger can)
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01-20-2025, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master 
2021 30' Flying Cloud
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,554
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Welcome! We've been full-timing for 10 years now. Our Airstream is the third RV for us and the shortest. We went from a 40' Foretravel MH with no slides to a 38' Grand Design with three slides to this 30' Airstream with no slides. Each RV was a 50A one.
When we started shopping for our Airstream we had a list of must-haves, must-not-haves, and nice-to-haves, then found one that fit as many requirements as possible. For us, 30' was the minimum length (we're full-time, remember), two air conditioners (so 50A), rear queen bed (personal choice) 2015 or newer, within our price range and a reasonable distance away. I also wanted to avoid the power awning and fancy electronics, so that pretty much left us looking at Flying Clouds. I prefer a standard hot water heater, and this one has a tankless one, but otherwise it fits our needs.
I wanted a 2021 or newer, but figured that we'd not be able to afford one, but this one popped up, looked good in person, so we took it.
My suggestion is that you make a list of your must-haves, must-not-haves, and nice-to-haves, along with a budget and distance range, then check rvtrader.com daily. Some people love the power awnings and Alde systems. Others are less impressed. Do your own research and decide what works for you. That's why Airstream makes so many different models.
As far as campsites go, we stayed at the same campgrounds we've been at before on the way home with this trailer. This shorter trailer was MUCH easier to get landed compared to the 30' GD. That was also a travel trailer, so we're comparing apples to apples here. You're looking at something a couple of feet shorter than ours, so ought to be even easier.
We had to cross out the Internationals as all of the ones we found had the upper windows instead of cabinets. As full-timers we need those cabinets. Don't know if a new trailer could be ordered with the cabinets in place of the windows, but if you're looking at new it wouldn't hurt to ask if that's a concern.
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2021 Flying Cloud 30 RBQ
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01-20-2025, 08:48 PM
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Rivet Master 
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,441
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We own a 2017 International 28’. We like it.
1) We like the lounge type seating.
2) You will want 2 AC units thus 50 AMP.
3) You can always adapt a 50AMP to 30 AMP if no 50AMP service. In fact you can plug it into 20AMP service with an adapter. We have many times.
4) If you are going on long trips I would consider going to a 30’. 28’ is nice, but the dealer we talked to says it is for a few weeks. For longer trips he suggested a 30’. More storage. Be careful about going too small for your needs. The only time length is an issue would be in some national park campgrounds. Otherwise I really don’t think it is much of an issue.
5) We don’t have solar. If you are camping in high sun areas no problem. Once you hit shaded tree sites you will have a problem. I suggest a generator as well. But unless you are boon docking solar isn’t all that necessary. Maybe carry a generator for emergencies.
6) Beyond the type of AS you need to think about an adequate tow vehicle and hitch set up which is very important. For longer trips you may need a 3/4 ton (gas or diesel) due to payload requirements. I tow with a 1/2 ton but we don’t go on long trips and only for few days or a week at a time. And you will want a weight distribution hitch that is easy to use and has sway control at a minimum.
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01-20-2025, 08:55 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2023 27' Globetrotter
Williamsburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 461
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieBundle
Hi, We're thinking of getting to a 27' or 28' Flying Cloud or International.
Has anyone found that having an Airstream over 25 feet makes it more difficult to find camps that can accommodate your size?
Same question if you opt for 50amp instead of 30 amp?
We JUST retired (YIPEE) and hope to travel across country, National Parks, longer trips, like 1-2 months.
We're hoping to avoid solar and just use a generator
Any advice would be useful... Thanks! 
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1) Zero problems fitting into most campsites. Older parks have some that are too small, but most accommodate a 27' nicely.
2) Absolutely get 50 amps. 2 ACs are pretty necessary in a lot of places we've been (e.g. Southeast, TX). Plus, you have a spare AC if one breaks.
3) Embrace solar/lithium. Solar is on so many rigs now it is almost the norm. Lithium (2x100aH) is a little expensive, but really pays off when occasionally boondocking. With solar we seldom if ever use our generator.
Congratulations on retirement!
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01-20-2025, 09:12 PM
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Site Team

2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,984
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Welcome to the forum. It is great to have you with us. And we love our AS. We have a 27' Globetrotter that we bought new. We started with a used 2009 25' International.
The GT had 2 A/C's and 50A service. Are you thinking of a used model or a new one? If new I would get the same.
Depending on a generator can be problematic because of noise restrictions. Having enough batteries to run the A/C is not practical.
And congrats on your retirement.
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2018 27' FBT Globetrotter
2019 RAM Limited 2500 w/6.7 diesel
BRN 22721
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01-20-2025, 09:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Northern
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 112
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It all boils down to the type of camping you intend on doing and where you will be camping. For instance, we are in Canada and mostly camp in the North East for up to two weeks at a time (not retired yet!) There is simply no need for two ACs up North + there is no 50 AMP service in the Provincial Parks and National Parks where we prefer to camp. For that reason, 30 AMP and one AC was the way to go for us. If we mainly camped in Texas and Arizona, it would be a different story. As to the length of the trailer, we have a 25FB. We have been to a few sites that would not have accommodated a 27 or 28, but that is exceptionally rare. I am not a big fan of solar, but, in my experience, gas generators are not very popular with the neighbours, especially in National Parks. Therefore, I have a decent solar setup + a Bluetti portable power station to supplement the solar when boondocking. It works for us. The bottom line is that you should pick a trailer that will meet your specific needs and camping style. Enjoy your retirement!
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01-21-2025, 08:46 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
Ballston Lake
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2025
Posts: 8
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Update: Advice Buying New RV
 thank you to all who have written to us. We are looking to buy 27, or 28’ in the next couple of days, perhaps even TODAY. So we appreciate the quick responses.
Some asked if we’re buying new or used and we will buy NEW to avoid inheriting someone else’s headaches or mistakes.
We are hearing that we shouldn’t fear a longer trailer and likely will NEED one since we will be taking long-term trips. That’s good to know.
Trepidation us about going with solar panels and batteries, but read about suitcase, solar panels, and think that must be a good idea so you can move the panels to a sunny area. Right? We don’t know terribly much about solar and batteries.
Also, think we heard from a salesman that storing your lithium batteries within the RV instead of outside on the exterior is a very smart idea. Preserves their durability/function??? Fire hazard? Any thoughts?
We are hearing that 50A and two ACs is a good idea since we plan to travel all over the country including hotter climates.
Assuming that a manual awning, while less convenient, probably weighs less, and would save gas and your towing vehicle? Something less to break down the road?
Turns out we already decided not to buy the towing vehicle until we have the trailer so we can make a smart choice there. Someone knowledgeable told us to opt for a powerful SUV rather than a tow truck because you can store your gear protected from weather and have a nice vehicle that can transport more than just two people comfortably. Any thoughts on that? Or any thoughts in general on towing vehicles? We know very little in that realm.
Super appreciate the advice – now it’s time to call my airstream dealer to make an appointment… So please keep advice coming, my new friends
With gratitude and no end of excitement! (we’ve been researching for over 1 year). Jeanie and Jon
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01-21-2025, 10:38 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Charleston
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 407
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Cover the roof with solar and get at least 600 amp hours of lithium.
Travel lightly.
An Airstream is a fair-weather vehicle.
Head north in the summer and south in the winter.
Find places to go that don’t involve a campground.
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01-21-2025, 10:39 AM
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Jim J
2014 30' Flying Cloud
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 633
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Buy Used
If you buy used, you will find that the factory installed defects and mistakes have been corrected which means more time for you enjoying your RV. It also means you will save a lot of $ on the purchase price and insurance. Finally if something is confusing you can ask the originally owner how it operates, has it ever been repaired, etc.
The typical new RV has many minor and sometimes major defects to be corrected in the first year of use. If you are buying new, choose a dealer with a good reputation for service and warranty support. These are usually the family owned dealerships that have been in business a long time, not a nationwide chain of dealers.
Check out insurance prices for your RV. You may want comprehensive and collision to cover damage to the RV you are towing. Your auto insurance should cover the liability.
If you can't store it at home, find a covered storage location for it. Take a look at what else is stored there and find out if there has been a problem with theft and break ins by asking other tenants or checking police reports.
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01-21-2025, 10:51 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 16,724
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Hi
First up, you can not figure this out from info on the internet. You very much need to go see the specific models in person. Ideally the whole "crew" would head over for this process. Seeing them is not just a "quick look". You need to spend significant time in examples of each one. We're talking hours, not minutes. There's a *lot* of things to check out. You won't have any idea how that seating setup works for you until you have sat there (and then over there .... ) for > 30 minutes.
You do not want to do this looking with a "helpful sales guy" hovering around trying to get you to move back inside to sign all those papers. You need to be able to move around. You also need to be able to talk openly to each other about what you observe (and like / don't like).
As far as 25 vs 26 vs 27 .... it's not big deal. AS rates their trailers "full length". Others rate them on this or that dimension. Campgrounds use who knows what in their descriptions. We've found "25' max" campsites that would easily handle a 50' rig. We've also found "40' max" sites that would not fit a 16' trailer.
You can always plug a 50A rig into a 30A plug. There are adapters for this. With an adapter, you get 30A at 120V to play with. Plugged in to a 50A outlet, you get 240V (or 100A at 120V after it splits) to play with. When you are on 50A, you can run both A/C units, the microwave, the TV and your hair dryer. If you are on 30A .... pick one  .
What works for you is *very* specific to you. You never know what you may work out after looking. We headed over to Colonial in NJ to *maybe* go up to a 27'. After all the looking, we got a 30'. Absolutely no regrets about that decision.
Bob
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01-21-2025, 11:23 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
2021 16' Basecamp
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 19
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I just have a 16’ Basecamp, but I do have a friend who was a HUGE National
Park visitor and she said they always got RVs no longer than 22’ because of that. They drive for at least a month—often more—every summer with their two girls until the graduated from high school. So if national parks at high season is a big priority for you, that may be a consideration. How exciting. And like most big decisions in life, if you make your kind up ahead of time that you’ll love it, then you will! The 16’ Basecamp has some serious things to deal with (mostly the only bed being the only table) but it’s extra lift and built in solar and small size for storage (we lived on a tiny lot when we bought it) made it the right choice for us at least for now. It’s a heckuva lot better than sleeping in a sleeping bag on the ground in a tent, and we can get spaces in campgrounds a lot easier. So I would say think about what the smallest one is that you can live with. If you’re not FT and remember you are adventuring, it might be worth thinking about a shorter one
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01-21-2025, 11:25 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
2021 16' Basecamp
Eugene
, Oregon
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 19
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I agree with embracing solar especially if factory installed! It’s seamless and SILENT!
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01-21-2025, 11:44 AM
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Rivet Master 

2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 8,114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieBundle
Hi, We're thinking of getting to a 27' or 28' Flying Cloud or International.
Has anyone found that having an Airstream over 25 feet makes it more difficult to find camps that can accommodate your size?
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No.
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Same question if you opt for 50amp instead of 30 amp?
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I would always opt for 50 amp. 30 amp service is one leg of 30 amp 120 vac. or 3600 watts available.
50 amp is TWO legs of 50 amp 120vac for a total of 12,000 watts available. Game changer even without considering the two a/c's.
I can always adapt my 50 amp cord to use a 30 amp outlet. I find most campgrounds have 50 amp or at least a section with 50 amp, usually nicer spots.
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We JUST retired (YIPEE) and hope to travel across country, National Parks, longer trips, like 1-2 months.
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Time to slow down and enjoy one place longer. You'll be amazed on how fast that month flies by in beautiful areas.
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We're hoping to avoid solar and just use a generator
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a generator is the best bang for the buck, but not always practical. I'm dipping my toe into solar by adding a couple solar suitcases (on the ground) just to charge batteries. If you need a/c then a generator is your only option.
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01-21-2025, 11:49 AM
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Rivet Master 
2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,579
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Selecting the appropriate tow vehicle.
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieBundle
 thank you to all who have written to us. We are looking to buy 27, or 28’ in the next couple of days, perhaps even TODAY. So we appreciate the quick responses.
Turns out we already decided not to buy the towing vehicle until we have the trailer so we can make a smart choice there. Someone knowledgeable told us to opt for a powerful SUV rather than a tow truck because you can store your gear protected from weather and have a nice vehicle that can transport more than just two people comfortably. Any thoughts on that? Or any thoughts in general on towing vehicles? We know very little in that realm.
Jeanie and Jon
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Jeanie and Jon, there’s more to selecting a tow vehicle than finding a powerful SUV.
Airstream trailers tend to have heavy tongue weight, expect at least 1000 lbs camping ready vs the factory’s brochure quoted weight. This impacts the tow vehicle’s payload and the GAWR for the rear axle. You will find these numbers on the vehicle’s door stickers.
Our first tow vehicle was a powerful SUV which paired great with our 23’ Flying Cloud but once we moved up to a 27’ it was overloaded.
We moved up to a RAM 1500 thinking this would be fine but found out the payload was only 1220 lbs and we were over the rear axle’s max of 4100 lbs by going to the CAT scales and weighing the truck and trailer. While the truck towed the trailer it often felt like the tail was wagging the dog.
We now have a RAM 2500 with 2940 lbs payload and 6350 lbs read axle GAWR. No more payload anxiety plus we’re getting the same or better gas mileage compared to the 1500.
Word of advice, do pay attention to payload and axle numbers to avoid making the expensive mistakes we did. Everything you put in the tow vehicle counts against it’s payload rating.
You’ll find many threads on AF about selecting the right tow vehicle. We’ve seen members of our local Airstream club towing with SUV’s. When I ask them if they’re over the payload I get a blank stare. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Good luck with your search!
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2019 27’ Globetrotter FBT Walnut/Dublin Slate
2018 FC23FB
2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi Laramie Blue Ox 1000#
WBCCI# 10258
RETIRED!
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01-21-2025, 11:56 AM
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Rivet Master 
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,441
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I would not go with an SUV. There are very few SUVs that have the payload or storage required for months on the road. Most SUVs have less power and payload than an F150 properly equipped. And they cost a lot more. If you were going on short trips no problem. But the longer the trips the more stuff you will want to take along. Also you can get hard bed covers for the pickups and you can store far more in the back of a pickup than the back of an SUV. Especially stuff that you really don't want in a nice SUV like tools and dirty campground supplies.
I highly recommend going with a 3/4 ton pickup or a very well equipped F150, which has the highest tow and payload rating in the 1/4 ton class. But if you go with an F150, then I highly recommend a Hensley or Propride hitch. I tow with a well equipped F150 and a Propride and it works great. Way better stability. But even then if I was out for months I would have a 3/4 ton. If you undersize your tow vehicle for what you need you will be regretting the experience.
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01-21-2025, 11:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Northern
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieBundle
 thank you to all who have written to us. We are looking to buy 27, or 28’ in the next couple of days, perhaps even TODAY. So we appreciate the quick responses.
Some asked if we’re buying new or used and we will buy NEW to avoid inheriting someone else’s headaches or mistakes.
We are hearing that we shouldn’t fear a longer trailer and likely will NEED one since we will be taking long-term trips. That’s good to know.
Trepidation us about going with solar panels and batteries, but read about suitcase, solar panels, and think that must be a good idea so you can move the panels to a sunny area. Right? We don’t know terribly much about solar and batteries.
Also, think we heard from a salesman that storing your lithium batteries within the RV instead of outside on the exterior is a very smart idea. Preserves their durability/function??? Fire hazard? Any thoughts?
We are hearing that 50A and two ACs is a good idea since we plan to travel all over the country including hotter climates.
Assuming that a manual awning, while less convenient, probably weighs less, and would save gas and your towing vehicle? Something less to break down the road?
Turns out we already decided not to buy the towing vehicle until we have the trailer so we can make a smart choice there. Someone knowledgeable told us to opt for a powerful SUV rather than a tow truck because you can store your gear protected from weather and have a nice vehicle that can transport more than just two people comfortably. Any thoughts on that? Or any thoughts in general on towing vehicles? We know very little in that realm.
Super appreciate the advice – now it’s time to call my airstream dealer to make an appointment… So please keep advice coming, my new friends
With gratitude and no end of excitement! (we’ve been researching for over 1 year). Jeanie and Jon
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As you will be travelling for extended periods of time, I think the 27 and 28 is a good option. Personally, I am partial to the open layout of the 27, but the couch at the front of the 28 sure looks nice. I prefer the manual awning. It takes less than two minutes to put up and you avoid the problems often associated with electric awnings. The two ACs and 50 AMP is also a good idea considering that you will be travelling in the southern states.
As to the tow vehicle, you will get a multitude of opinions on this forum. I use a Ram 1500 and a Dodge Durango RT Tow N Go to tow my FC 25FB.
The Durango RT and SRT models can tow up to 8700 lbs and would be suitable for a 27 or 28. Those Durango models are powerful (5.7 L and 6.4 L Hemi respectively), have decent payload, are built to tow (bigger rear axle, adaptive suspension, Brembo brakes, integrated brake controller, heavy duty cooling system) and are very stable compared to a truck due to their relatively low centre of gravity. They are also quite nimble. I have come to appreciate the Durango’s maneuverability in tight campgrounds. As a bonus, it is very sporty and fun to drive when not towing and much cheaper to SUVs with comparable towing capabilities.
That said, if I would be travelling across the country as you plan on doing, I would probably settle on a HD pick up truck with a diesel engine simply to travel with greater confidence and peace of mind in the mountains and have the ability to bring more stuff on extended trips, which the increased payload of a HD truck allows.
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01-21-2025, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master 
2020 23' Flying Cloud
2019 22' Sport
Sebastian
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 1,282
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Jeanie and Jon,
Having bought both used and new, I favor new. Our 22Sport had several appliance issues that were not covered because we were not the first owner. (Warranty by Dometic, not Airstream) The dealer helped us with the fridge, we ate the cost for the hot water heater. Also, did the previous owner actually attempt to have all the deficiencies corrected? Our dealer is three hours away, so we live with a few things like cabinets askew and defective flooring.
Truck vs SUV? We are truck all the way, with an extra height cap over the bed. We get covered storage, and can throw stinky/dirty stuff back there with no concerns. (Think gas powered generators and the required fuel) Purely anecdotally, I’ve seen way more SUV/Airstream combos in the ditch than trucks. (Cue the flamethrowers and lightning bolts) Could be the “ignorance is bliss” factor.
We are completely on board with the manual awnings. It takes me less than a minute to put ours in Caravan mode, by myself. No worries about self deploying going down the highway.
Good luck at the dealer! Don’t let them rush you.
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-Don
(That man in that tiny can)
(Same man, Bigger can)
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01-21-2025, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master 
2023 28' International
Mercer County
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 790
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeanieBundle
Turns out we already decided not to buy the towing vehicle until we have the trailer so we can make a smart choice there. Someone knowledgeable told us to opt for a powerful SUV rather than a tow truck because you can store your gear protected from weather and have a nice vehicle that can transport more than just two people comfortably. Any thoughts on that? Or any thoughts in general on towing vehicles? We know very little in that realm.
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Lots of opinions here on the right TV. Any modern truck, assuming a crew cab, will be able to comfortably carry 5 people so that is not a concern.
The problem with storing gear in the SUV is that it may be dirty, wet, stinky, contain gas/oil, etc... so do you really want that in an SUV? Getting a pickup with either a cap or hard cover works for most.
Also, remember that while most SUVs seem to be able to tow a lot or haul 7 passengers, it doesn't work that way in reality. You need to choose one - if you tow at the max, you better have few passengers and little cargo or if you load up the SUV full of passengers, you have no towing capacity.
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