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06-19-2007, 06:01 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1972 25' Tradewind
1962 30' Sovereign
Navarre
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Understanding Vin/serial numbers
Hello to all,
I am in search of information. I bought a wonderful small vintage Airstream back last year, only problem on it is not sure what model it is. I have a number from the door plate, and stamped on the hitch it reads 22TO198. Title says its a 1959, and there is a date stamp to match on the door plate for 59. Can anyone help on the model info. I took it to a vintage rally in Pensacola, but everyone was stumped, most thought it was a custom model. It is a land yacht, but has upgrades from the higher models. Close the the Flying Cloud, but somewhat different then floorplans I have come across
The next part on help is an older Airstream I am looking at in Florida, no tag or Title, but has a vin/serial number but the guy is not sure on the age. It is a Overlander with the following info on the door plate.
Airstream plate: 26TS S0668
6204
Santa Fe Springs, CA
State of California
Dept of Industrial Relations
Division of Housing: M-4 S-0668 2512
DOH No. A-15131
The guy thought it was a 1967, but thats what he thought his father said it was before his death. His family had it for about 14 years on a hunting camp, but he does not know where his father got it from. It is rough and needs some TLC, but might be returned to the road with some help.
I am thinking of buying it from him and working out title problems, but need to figure out what year it is, can anyone help. Plus any ideas for FL on getting a new tittled issued.
Thanks,
Shawn
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06-19-2007, 07:06 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
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Hi Shawn and welcome to the forums. Maybe I can shead some light on the first trailer you mentioned since its morte in line with the timeframe mine was made. I can't help you with the other one. In reviewing vintageairstream.com's archive page, it looks like the numbering sequence would make it an Ohio built Caravanner. The 22 represents the length in feet, the 'T' stands for Twin beds and the 0198 is the sequential number made for that model year off the assembly line. Further confusing the issue often times, is the time of year the trrailer was originally sold and registered with DMV. Although possibly built in the spring, it may have not sold until the fall and was then originally registered as the following year. Pictures would really help clarify exactly what you have. We all love pictures.
Brad
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On edit: Meant to say CA built and not Ohio. Sorry.
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06-19-2007, 07:11 PM
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Rivet Master 
1971 27' Overlander
Central
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Your first trailer appears to be a 59 Flying Cloud - California built.
The second has too many digits in the s/n - it should be more like 267S NNN.
Making it a 26 foot Overlander - 1967 - CA built also - NNN = s/n.
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06-19-2007, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Master 
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West of Fort Worth
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Well - it was either built in Ohio...or California.
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06-19-2007, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master 
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Quote:
Airstream plate: 26TS S0668
6204
Santa Fe Springs, CA
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26 = Length (26' would be an Overlander)
T = Rear Bath Twins
SS0668 = Is within the serial range for a 1962 Overlander
The additional 4 numbers "6204" verify it is a 1962 built early in the production year.
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06-19-2007, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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Hello Shawn -- and welcome to the Forums! You first post (and thread) create some fun detective work. This can become especially challenging based on numbers alone. Posting photos from several angles are always helpful. Length of trailer should be measured bumper to ball
Airstream was rather variable about VINs in the 1950s and early 1960s. Take a look at the company's guide -- pretty hit or miss: http://www.airstream.com/airstream/p...pre1980vin.pdf
You are asking about two different models. Here is an example of a '59 Custom that actually has the word custom on the nameplate. R.J. Dial's Vintage Airstream website will show some representative VINs for 1959 -- it tends to give serial production numbers that are assigned to different models. Look at 1958 and 1960 models too to see how VINs vary.
Let us know what you find out about the 2nd trailer!
Your Dept of Motor Vehicles can assist you on licensing an untitled trailer. Do this first so you can get statements you need from the current owner.
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06-19-2007, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master 
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Colville
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The "T" in the VIN (in the format you listed) was exclusive to the California built models in '59.
While the 22' trailer had many names in '59 in Ohio, California built ones were strictly Flying Clouds - customized to just about any configuration you wanted.
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06-19-2007, 08:11 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1959 22' Flying Cloud
1972 25' Tradewind
1962 30' Sovereign
Navarre
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I should add the 1959 has a whale tail bumper on it. Plus the Airstream Tag mentions California, so pretty sure where its from just not the model. In the front it has 2 beds one on each side, one pulls out to be a double bed the other more the size of a twin. It also has a rear bath. I will be posting some pictures on it soon.
The one I am thinking on buying has a rear bathroom with a double in the middle, and it also has a front booth area with what looks like pulls into 2 twins.
I also have a 1972 Tradewind, but its labeled, and has clear info, lol. I love its floorplan, but like the way my 59 is built better. Thats why I am looking at the 26 foot one from the 60's. My 72 Tradewind is from Ohio with a double bed in middle and rear bath.
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06-19-2007, 08:27 PM
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1959 24' Tradewind
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I agree, '59's rock!! Looking forward to pictures.
Brad
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10-18-2007, 02:55 PM
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1968 30' Sovereign
longview
, Washington
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can some one help me with my vin number
hello i was wondering if anyone can help me decode my vin number for my 68 airstream the number is i308s602-2754 if anyone can pleas help me out with this thank you
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10-18-2007, 03:08 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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Hello robert21 -- I don't recognize that as an Airstream VIN at all. There are some exceptions but the VIN is on an Airstream plaque just in front of the door. It is also embossed in 5/8" to 3/4" numbers/letters on the steel front A-frame but that can be hard to find. Riveted plaques at the back end of an Airstream tend to be California registration numbers. Where are you seeing this number?
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10-18-2007, 04:52 PM
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Rivet Master 

1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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Looks like a standard VIN to me...
It's a CA made 1968 Sovereign - 30'long
1968 Sovereign 30'
Ohio | O(I) 30 8 J NNN
California | O(I) 30 8 S NNN
(5NN for double-bed layout)
(O prefix for Standard Landyacht options, I prefix for Int'l options)
I - International
30 - 30' Sovereign
8 - 1968
S - Santa Fe Springs (CA made)
602 - sequential number
Should look like one of these:
68Sovereign
Shari
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10-18-2007, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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Thanks for decoding that Shari! I didn't give it a side to side comparison with the examples.
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10-18-2007, 05:02 PM
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Naysayer

1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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I'm curious, just how many different formats has AS used in the Vin system?
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10-18-2007, 05:19 PM
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Rivet Master 

1956 22' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
I'm curious, just how many different formats has AS used in the Vin system?
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How many years have they been making them?
Seriously, there are only a couple in the vintage years...most are described very well on RJ's archive matrix ~ I can usually ' recognize' enough of a VIN # to know where to get it confirmed or know the general age to look at, but I am by no means faultless.
Having Fred (47WeeWind) as a close friend and hearing him explain them during his countless VAC presentations over the last six years - sure helps!
He's the real VIN-PRO!!!
Shari
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10-19-2007, 01:18 PM
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New Member
1968 30' Sovereign
longview
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thank you very much fior the help
thank you very much for the help
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10-31-2015, 05:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1977 25' Caravanner
Jeffersonville
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Can anyone help me decipher this VIN please,
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10-31-2015, 09:09 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scf31
Can anyone help me decipher this VIN please,
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What plate? If trouble posting pictures, just type the number.
Brad
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11-16-2015, 08:27 AM
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New Member
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Berkeley
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Looking at a Californian 20 1950's airstrean
24d
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11-16-2015, 08:32 AM
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New Member
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Berkeley
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Looking at a Californian 20 1950's airstrean
24D -S1022. It is a Santa Fe name plate. Below is #6304. I wonder if anyone can decode it it year of mfg and model.
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